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IBM just announced earnings and fell 5% you know these giants like unthinkably large companies a few years ago where are they now compared a little bit Changing of the Guard but IBM has a huge Cloud business now that's getting pretty big they're nice guys and I wish them well yeah they're I mean it's a serious competition right now um they're going to spend a ton of money but you know they're looking at Consultants where the margins are coming down and Bezos lives in a world of like zero margins