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for a while not everybody um uh not everybody replaced Adobe or Sketch with it. Um but I feel good about that path now.
I think the team did a really good job of balancing, you know, in the in the road map, like feature parity of of being a complete um design tool uh and uh magical flourishes of like things you can only do in Figma
we did the series A in Figma and I would say it was um it it had a long road to get to like the feature parity you would need with existing design tools for it to become for for the experience to become mainstream enough that everybody began to see the power.
we were in in this company called Figma, right? Oh, that's the design software. Yeah, exactly. Um and if you have a bunch of designers either together remotely working with software engineers and product people and marketing, um like having a a amazing web-based real-time collaborative experience makes all the difference in the world.