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you need to have an aggressive performance management culture and to stay on top of that... we really try to you know stay on top of that we track it closely
we measured this before covet because we were doing a lot of remote hiring and we want to see we wanted to see how much we should lean into it is that it is not good for early career people we can actually measure it in our productivity data
most of the interchange fees that are charged to merchants and you know you mentioned uh what we charge the all in podcast you know the vast majority of that flows right back to the uh to the issuing banks uh in the form of interchange and almost all of that flows right back to the consumers in the form of you know the lending that the the the cards themselves represent but then also in card rewards like card programs are not actually big profit pools uh for most of the major banks and so i thin
the big use case that's taking off right now is consumers in other countries seeking to hold dollars you know we in the us here today you know we obviously benefit from having able to do that the vast majority of people in the world have kind of a are subject to a worse currency worse in the sense that it's less stable uh it's more inflationary you know storing savings is is much less favorable uh you know if you look at the naira for example there are a lot of people in nigeria and the the curr
the thing we kind of realized a couple years in is that you know what business like the the structural secular thing that's happening is that every kind of money movement is going from being manually orchestrated to being orchestrated by software and there's you know some programs somewhere making the thing happen and so because of that like just because of what we hear from customers and the the pull there we're now you know