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the way for us to compete with that is just making our service better and better.
one of the largest things that people do is, um, stream repping. You know, just, if you look in the, um, app stores, both the Apple and, and, um, Google, uh, app stores, you see in the top 10 apps, um, almost exclusively always, there's some sort of stream ripper where you can download the stuff off of YouTube or SoundCloud or any of those platforms and put it in your local library.
what we saw very clearly is like the people who were listening to Taylor Swift, you could see an immediate spike, you know, the next day from when we removed her catalog to, uh, YouTube streams. It was almost a one-to-one correlation because kids are smart.
No, it's because they want to get promoted. Uh, so they view it more as promotion than, um, anything else.
I, I like to think that it doesn't matter how many smart Mensa people you have in your company. Sooner or later, you're going to get defocused if you do a thousand things and you can't do all thousand things super well.
I think they're going to keep investing, as I said, and trying to make their product better. It makes sense. They have a deep heritage in music, um, which they obviously care about.
Apple and Google does this and about 10,000 other things. I think there's, um, something huge, um, in, in terms of that focus because it brings clarity. It brings, you know, this is all I do every day. I don't even invest in other companies. I just focus on building this company. Um, and you know, we think by that focus and the thousands if not millions of hours that we produce in just creating that experience, we will win.
I think both Apple and Google are serious in music and will keep on investing in trying to make it.
I made a tweet that I later had to remove, so I'm not going to say much more about that, which was like, wow, this is terrible.
Apple starts with closed and then on a case by case basis they will open it up.
I think both Apple and Google are serious in music and will keep on investing in trying to make it. Um, we're, we're specialized. We don't do anything other than our own service. Um, Apple and Google does this and about 10,000 other things. I think there's, um, something huge, um, in, in terms of that focus because it brings clarity.
I think they have fundamentally different approaches, uh, Apple and Google. So Apple starts with closed and then on a case by case basis, they will open it up. Um, Google has the opposite view, which is we start with open and on a case by case basis will close things down. But I, I think that's the ethos that really is the huge difference between those two companies. So Google's approach to this is if someone tells us it's illegal, i.e. a government of some sort, we will take it down. But, um, u