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There is a very high probability that both OpenAI and Anthropic will complete their IPOs within the next 6-9 months.
What happened: Neither OpenAI nor Anthropic completed an IPO within the 6-9 month timeframe; both companies have remained private as of the current date.
Verify at source ↗There is a very high probability that Anthropic will complete its IPO within the next 6-9 months.
What happened: Anthropic has not completed an IPO and remains a private company, having raised substantial private funding (such as from Amazon and Google) rather than going public within the specified timeframe.
Verify at source ↗SpaceX's cloud computing business (EWS) will generate an incremental $45 billion in revenue in 2026, on top of existing analyst estimates in the mid-20s.
What happened: The prediction concerns SpaceX's revenue in 2026, which has not yet occurred, so the outcome cannot be determined.
Verify at source ↗Uber's free cash flow will reach almost $10 billion within a few years of 2024.
What happened: Uber's free cash flow has remained in the low single‑digit billions and has not approached the $10 billion target in the years following 2024; projections for 2025–2027 remain far below that level.
Verify at source ↗Uber will reach $4 to $5 billion in profitability in 2024.
What happened: Uber remained unprofitable in 2024, reporting net losses in each quarter and no evidence of achieving $4–$5 billion in profit.
Verify at source ↗we haven't even talked about starlink and what he's going to do uh you know i think going to run the table on mobile
i mean listen the same thing's going on at microsoft right satya is out this week saying you know citing morgan stanley's report and saying they're seeing over a 30 return on invested capital in tokens as a service right so in the infrastructure business so i think david's exactly right those are such good businesses
i think it's very high
And by the way, doing it at the same time, the OpenAI, who is also on the wave, they'll be releasing an incredible model in the next imminently. They're going to be on that wave, and you're going to see an inflection in their revenues as well.
We have low penetration of the global 2000. We have low penetration of the use cases. We have low penetration within the use cases that they're already using, and the models are only getting better.
these guys are massively compute constrained. They're each going to be adding three gigawatts of compute this year. And so that will unlock, they would be growing even faster, but for that.
I would not be shocked if you see Anthropic exiting this year at $80 to $100 billion in revenue.
It's not that there was some great go to market in Anthropic that all of a sudden, you know, they snuck up and blew everybody away. No, it was companies demanding the product. They're getting throttled on the product. Why? Because it's so good.
So the company's plans were to end the year at about a $30 billion exit run rate. They got there by the end of March, right? And I suspect that it's continuing in April.
they added 4 billion of revenue in January, 7 billion in February, 11 billion of annualized run rates or 10 or 11 billion in March.
I actually think they deserve a ton of credit here and let me walk you through why. The company could have just released Mythos, broken a lot of core things on the internet.
Anthropic unquestionably has a lot of financial momentum. You know, and OpenAI is seeing a lot of momentum themselves, right? But the single most important question this year, right, was would AI revenue show up? And just 60 days ago, 90 days ago, there was tremendous skepticism. No way all of these infrastructure investments were going to pay off. There's no incremental revenue coming out of AI, including many of our friends. But in February, we had, in January and February, we really had kind
And so early in the year, we were worried about tariffs. Altimeter was positioned small, right? By May, we thought they would land the plane with the best in consensus, you know, on trade, we'd get the big, beautiful bill passed. And we went to kind of extra large positioning and we've been there most of the year. And so now we're back to kind of Chemaat just nailed it. You know, we're back to kind of medium, medium, small positioning in the market. So when you look at the multiples of the marke
Well, I would just say they correlate with what the information is reported as leaked data from both companies. And that makes them both the fastest growing companies in the history of Silicon Valley. Let's just be clear about that.
I estimate about half of that spending is going to be born by the partners.
I think they will just extend, recut the deals in order to make those expenses doable for the company.
the information is reporting that their internal numbers are both over a hundred billion dollars
I would like to buy more shares in the company
so first this is a bet the farm bet by lisa sue right she's giving away 10 of the
the public markets as Amazon, as Google, as Salesforce, and so many others have proven. This idea that you can't innovate in the public markets is total nonsense.
the distribution of potential for them is less than it was before chat gpt you know the the distribution of upside they have some competitors now who are going to be vying for this next new thing and i wonder whether or not you know as they try to navigate you know you're saying they're going to take some of this traffic from search and feed it into this other thing this other thing better monetize as well as search or by definition that means revenue goes down
take something like nvidia if i'm playing at home or i'm a you know a professional investor i may say oh i'm going to go sell some long-dated calls to buy a little protection to the downside i don't think there's any problems with nvidia i think they're going to continue to perform i think they're beat their numbers for the balance of the year but you know remember at the start of the year people thought they were going to miss their numbers for data center people thought data center revenues th
it's incredible like 38 year old founder who made a decision that had the mental flexibility he never had to talk with me his team never had to talk with me he didn't have to do any of these things he didn't have to double down on efficiency and ai like it's a little embarrassing to do that right you have to say well maybe this meta thing we need to make it a little smaller maybe we do need to double down on ai maybe we do that is the sign of greatness the refusal to talk to anybody who might ha
i've been so impressed watching what meta did
nvidia was priced at 125 a share in january of this year of this year the consensus sales forecast was that data centers would be down six percent this is all the world's best sell side analysts goldman sachs morgan stanley etc thought that data center growth in the year of ai would be negative for nvidia instead it's up 80 percent right that's how wrong they can be ... but when i have entrepreneur after entrepreneur walking into my office saying the single greatest bottleneck that we have in th
it just stood to reason that an infinite scroll, right. Where I could entertain myself like television was going to work better on mobile than it did on desktop because I get up and leave my desk, but I don't leave my supercomputer.
the brilliance of Mark Zuckerberg is he's infinitely curious. He's mentally flexible. He's in the building. Larry and Sergey are not in the building. Mark is in the building. He cares deeply about the product.
the core business needed to get fit and focused that he should double down on AI and he should just quarantine invest 5 billion a year, which is still an insane amount of money on Metaverse instead of 15 or 20.
And yet staring them in the face was probably the biggest goldmine, the biggest opportunity that we've seen in our investment careers, which was AI.
At Meta that manifested itself in a 10 year project where they plan to spend more money than the U S government spent on the Apollo project that put Meta on the moon. And nobody really even understood exactly what it was, including Mark.
there was also a lot of dislocation around IDFA and a lot of things happening in the world that specifically were hurting meta.
Facebook went from 40,000 employees to 80,000 employees in two years... And everybody that we talked to said, it's slowed down. We're not releasing products. It's no fun to work there.
So it wasn't just Snowflake. It was also MongoDB and, you know, companies that were enabling the move to the cloud like Twilio and Okta.
And so Snowflake, just as a canonical example, the largest market in all of software in 2000 was databases. It was a trillion dollars of enterprise value. And it made sense because it was the primordial, it was a primal component that gave rise to all of software. And so if it was worth a trillion, if data was worth a trillion in the year 2000, what would it be worth 10 years later, when data is doubling every two to three years? So as the world was moving into the cloud, we said we want to own
So data is the oxygen, or the fuel that runs AI, then we're only 10% or 15% of the way into capturing all of this data, removing friction from this data.
And it wasn't just Snowflake. It was also MongoDB and, you know, companies that were enabling the move to the cloud like Twilio and Okta. And so we've invested, as you know, and are still investing in what we call the modern data stack.
So we're very thematic driven. We talk about super cycles. So I study the super cycle and say, if we get the super cycle right, then it's easier to find the companies, right? Because if you know, like organizing all the world's information in search is going to be a valuable toll booth, right? Then I want to go find the people who are doing that the best. Or, you know, when you saw this mobile device, or when you saw these devices for the first time, and we knew that those icons were all going t
it may all end up with microsoft and google i mean this may end up looking like ios and android at the foundation model level and so you know i think as investors for example on the foundation model side i think it's very difficult to choose just one particularly when the largest one is frankly captive and a proxy to microsoft and they're capping your upside return
one of our biggest investments is snowflake frank sleutman general sleutman frank sleutman uh you know when we brought frank on board to lead that company you know he said prepare for war right this for him is not a a one-day mission that's not a way a way to behave for a single day or a response to something it's a way of life right that the company's duty is to be fit every day right so he was making changes three four years ago right in terms of changing culture and now let me just give you o
apple has been famously efficient relative to the other big companies like like facebook or google and one of the things i would say about apple you know why do they have such fitness like what is it culturally i want to point to two things right the first is a design culture around minimalism and essentialism that is also an ethos for how they run the business got it right steve jobs says he says focus isn't choosing you know the thing that you like the most focus is saying no to a thousand thi
be perfectly honest jason i hope i hope that i can put him there i listen nobody can doubt elon's credentials as a visionary um as a ceo or as a courageous leader um i am rooting for his success we need him to be successful okay but i do listen you are you're close with him uh i think all of us worry that he's taken on a lot yeah and and and when you take on a lot you get spread thin so i want him to be successful but i wouldn't put it on the list just yet all right but i expect it will be becau
what i see happening in venture and there's a big effect here since elon took over twitter this elon effect i mean he's revered by a lot of founders everybody can say whatever they want about his a style his approach um you know he's far from perfect he's the first to admit it but the courage in making that level of change and everybody said the lights would turn off at twitter right it wouldn't work anymore you couldn't possibly do this
on the bottom of the list um listen i would put i hate to say it because i'll be candid i i love both of these companies i'm going to stick with the big companies uh to start and i would say uh you know google and facebook
i basically said hey tighten your belt on people you'll get more innovative this is the misnomer it's not about cutting it's not about killing investment it's about getting more innovative more productive okay those two things coexist so it's get more focused on that get more productive number two focus on ai in fact maybe invest more in ai and then on this third thing if i were doing this i'd do what google did which is i would say long-term bet more uncertainty i'm going to put this in somethi
they're investing way more in ai than most people understand right the the magic of bite dance tick tock was that it was not a social network right they targeted my son to watch tick tock through ai and it worked so facebook has done a complete retooling over the last three years right has been one of the largest consumers of gpus right to really build an ai discovery engine okay the world doesn't even know that because they think that mark you know renamed the company you know meta and the only
this business can do 40 billion in free cash flow instead you're going to do 15 billion in free cash flow right because you're making these massive investments
at facebook i thought they had a particularly acute challenge but a particularly interesting opportunity the acute challenge was they had gone from 25 000 to 85 000 employees in just a few years and at the same time they were making a massive and uncertain long-term bet more sizable than any bet we've seen in silicon valley on oculus and reality labs where i said you've confused investors which is hurting the company
what i see happening in public companies we talked about meta or google or amazon etc what i see happening in venture and there's a big effect here since elon took over twitter this elon effect i mean he's revered by a lot of founders everybody can say whatever they want about his a style his approach um you know etc he's far from perfect he's the first to admit it but the courage in making that level of change and everybody said the lights would turn off at twitter right it wouldn't work anymor
this is a good transition to the conversation around austerity and meta we know that the top lines for all these companies for all the reasons you mentioned going to get a lot tougher right top line growth going to be hard consumers are going to be more precious and more thoughtful with their spending advertising has hit a major bump in the road companies are cutting advertising companies are cutting corporate spending and consumers are cutting spending all at the same time top line will slow
you know if you're giving away 40 billion in rsu's the way facebook has over the course of the last six years right then then shareholders expect and should expect to earn some return
on the bottom of the list um listen i would put i hate to say it because i'll be candid i i love both of these companies i'm going to stick with the big companies uh to start and i would say uh you know google and facebook um google and facebook and you know like they um google listen ruth porat's an incredible cfo at google she made a bunch of great changes when she came on board um over the course of the last eight years they've compounded but the fact of the matter is the company is now at i
We believe in this team... We know meta has more reach more relevance and more incredible opportunities for growth than almost any platform on the planet
Meta has drifted into the land of excess too many people too many ideas too little urgency... This lack of focus and fitness is obscured when growth is easy but deadly when growth slows and technology changes
An open letter published to mark zuckerberg and the meta board urging them to tighten their belt and sharpen their investment focus The plan would 2x annual free cash flow to 40 billion dollars double down on ai But put a cap on metaverse related investments.
well i think listen what makes investing hard is sometimes you have to hold simultaneous truth right and the reality is there's a lot of cognitive dissonance when you see something down 30 40 50 percent but it may be still that fair value right we were talking about last october like make no mistake about it just take snowflake as an example the move from 400 to 200 was probably just what i would describe as normalization in a world
So the entire profit margin of Uber was competed away by stupidity. And you tweeted last week. And I noticed because Jason and I may have a little something on the line here, you know, with respect to Uber for the first time you tweeted after their quarterly earnings, maybe we're starting to see network effects show up at Uber. Because if you listen to the Lyft call, it was a train wreck.
Because if you listen to the Lyft call, it was a train wreck.
So Lyft and everybody else could do diseconomic things.
he came into snowflake when it was growing over 300 percent and he he you know he he reconstituted what what that culture was about to prepare for wartime right because he says when wartime comes right and it gets challenging i want to run the field right i don't want to be laying off employees i want to be that's the time to hire that's the time to press the advantage that's the time to invest in product that's the time to win the new customers
let's say we reduce the multiple by 50 but the company's growing top line and free cash flow by a hundred percent doesn't take you very long to grow through the multiple compression so snowflakes multiple is plummeting for two reasons one because the stock price came down number two because right their growth rate and free cash flow growth is so high
snowflake became a poster child in the public markets of a high priced uh sas business snowflake this year will grow its free cash flow at over a hundred percent a year next year probably you know 80 or 90 free cash flow not just revenue free cash flow in q4 i think they booked 1.4 billion of revenue q4 on a business that entirely in last year did 1.2 billion in revenue right
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And for a select few every year, we're going to help them go full stack on the Altimeter platform, but we'll participate in 40 other IPOs, where we'll be an expert advisor on their traditional bank IPO, like we did with Snowflake, where we helped anchor that, or like Roblox, where we helped cornerstone the direct list
What we're very focused on is what we've done for, I've done for 20 years, which is focused on the world's best internet and software companies, gaming and fintech, right?
I'm never going to bring a company public that I'm not willing to lock up my sponsor promote in because, frankly, I want to bring the best of the best.
We delivered a better cap table at a fairer price with a hell of a lot less distraction than they would have gotten in a typical experience. So we're, I think, a great partner, too.
And Altimeter has 15 years of trust and relationships with these portfolio managers because we sit on the same side.
this isn't about flipping a SPAC. This is about building a product like I've built in four or three other companies like Rich has built it. You know, we took a Zillow approach. What is the I buy of the IPO? How can you deconstruct that?
What was significant about this week, wasn't the fact that we did a big SPAC, right? What was significant about this week is that a company that clearly could have gone public with any of the major investment banks in the world, chose an alternative capital markets platform to step into the public markets.
When we thought about building a capital markets platform at Altimeter, this wasn't like a one-off SPAC. This was like, can we use, um, can we use the SPAC as effectively an open source API into the public markets? Nice. And we build a service layer on top of that called a capital markets business, where we provide a full turnkey solution from the book build all the way through the IR, uh, up to the data. Investor relations. Correct.
the reality is you should allocate to things that you think are thematically highly asymmetric and great ideas and and this was one of them and one we missed