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One of the firms used for calculating overlap coefficient and portfolio correlation. observed
No person- or entity-level identity check is on record for this company. A name match is not one.
The ranked index lists private AI companies with two or more independent sourced evidence families; its Early-stage view also leaves out rounds of $100M or more that no source assigns a stage. This profile is reachable but not ranked: we do not yet hold two independent sourced evidence families for it. It is a statement about evidence and mandate, and about nothing else.
We have not established fit. That is not a soft no and not a soft yes — it is unknown, and it is never counted as a qualified prospect.
Assessed 2026-11-14 for seed/Series-A sourcing.
↓ Scored on 0 of 3 components — funding recency, adoption, developer had no computable metric.
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So they're, they're kind of, if you're, if you're a good fund like that, you basically are guaranteed on your downside to limit it to at least your tax write-off that you'll, you'll be able to get out of it.
the tax write-off to the tax writer, because if they have this loss, like, let's say they had slack or something and they made a billion dollars in slack. Now they've got 7 million in losses that they can take against that, you know, and that's how tax works.
I emailed Kleiner. I'm like, I want to open source this whole thing... And they were like, you know, like, this is weird, but like, you know, you can do whatever you want, but like, we still own IP. ... And then months later, uh, I get an email from them out of the blue... it's just like, you know, we want to buy back the shares for a dollar. ... I was like, what's the catch? I mean, like you're, you, you invested seven or 8 million bucks. Like, why are you selling it back for a dollar? I never
I went back to Kleiner and I was like, this looks difficult. You know, and I frankly wish that Kleiner had given me a heads up that this, you know, I thought they would have known this sort of thing before, but I guess they have a lot of investments, but yeah, they gave us a bridge round.
when Kleiner sort of gave us the term sheet, um, got another one from index, you know, it was kind of like so few people ever get this opportunity. Like, I have to take, you don't even think about it cause you're like, this is such a rare thing.
So let's talk about the Kleiner relationship because you detail this. Kleiner puts his money in pre-product market fit. Always a bad idea to put a lot of money into a company before product market fit because why?
VentureSignalScore 0/100 for kleiner-perkins, composed from 1 of 4 components (index v0 cross-signal), discounted ×0.79 for 30% signal coverage
| Component | Weight | Normalized | Contribution |
|---|---|---|---|
| Funding magnitude | 0.3 | 0 |
An evidence gap, not proof of falsity: Form D is not always required (foreign offerings, certain exemptions) or may not be filed yet.
A first sale, a filing, an amendment and a public announcement are not the same event, and one date may not stand in for another. Where the latest financing date cannot be established from what we hold, this says unknown rather than substituting a date we do have.
No reported round and no SEC filing on record — no financing date is established.
Gray-market attention, not quality. 50+ HN mentions (peak 332 points). Claim-shaped headlines are rumors until corroborated — a Tier-3 factual claim carries no evidentiary weight on its own. Risk drivers: heavy gray-market attention. ▲ 332 Ellen Pao Loses Silicon Valley Bias Case Against Kleiner Perkins 2015-03-27 ↗
| Attribute | Value | Kind | Source | Observed | State | Conf. |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
buyer_fit.assessment | {"buyer": "seed/Series-A sourcing", "method": "Backlog pass 2026-10-24: applied the record_buyer_fit.ts fit rule to this company's held primary-source financing evidence (funding.round.* / sec.form_d. | observed | assessment | 2026-11-14 | normalized | 0.90 |
buyer_fit.status | unknown | observed | assessment | 2026-11-14 | normalized | 0.90 |
common_name | Kleiner Perkins | observed | artifact ↗ | 2026-10-01 | normalized | 0.60 |
community.hn.max_points | 332 | observed | artifact ↗ | 2026-11-14 | normalized | 0.20 |
community.hn.mentions | 50 | observed | artifact ↗ | 2026-11-14 | normalized | 0.20 |
community.hn.rumors | [{"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23975998", "title": "Density raises $51M Series C led by Kleiner Perkins", "points": 93, "created_at": "2020-07-28", "evidence_type": "rumor", "verificat | observed | artifact ↗ | 2022-05-11 | normalized | 0.20 |
community.hn.top_story | {"url": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9279024", "title": "Ellen Pao Loses Silicon Valley Bias Case Against Kleiner Perkins", "points": 332, "created_at": "2015-03-27"} | observed | artifact ↗ | 2015-03-27 | normalized | 0.20 |
description | One of the firms used for calculating overlap coefficient and portfolio correlation. | observed | artifact ↗ | 2026-10-01 | normalized | 0.60 |
funding.round.amount_usd | 2000000 | observed | artifact ↗ | 2021-03-24 | normalized | 0.50 |
metric.venture.funding_amount_usd | 2000000 | derived | calc | 2026-11-14 | derived | 0.50 |
score.venture_signal | 0 | derived | calc | 2026-11-14 | derived | 0.26 |
signal.commentary | {"context": null, "run_ref": "01M7DD89X084JKN6SRXC4C69EX", "signals": [{"quote": "So let's talk about the Kleiner relationship because you detail this. Kleiner puts his money in pre-product market fit | observed | artifact ↗ | 2021-03-24 | promoted | 0.50 |
signal.commentary | {"context": null, "run_ref": "01M7DD89X084JKN6SRXC4C69EX", "signals": [{"quote": "when Kleiner sort of gave us the term sheet, um, got another one from index, you know, it was kind of like so few peop | observed | artifact ↗ | 2021-03-24 | promoted | 0.50 |
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signal.commentary | {"context": null, "run_ref": "01M7DD89X084JKN6SRXC4C69EX", "signals": [{"quote": "I emailed Kleiner. I'm like, I want to open source this whole thing... And they were like, you know, like, this is wei | observed | artifact ↗ | 2021-03-24 | promoted | 0.50 |
signal.commentary | {"context": null, "run_ref": "01M7DD89X084JKN6SRXC4C69EX", "signals": [{"quote": "the tax write-off to the tax writer, because if they have this loss, like, let's say they had slack or something and t | observed | artifact ↗ | 2021-03-24 | promoted | 0.50 |
signal.commentary | {"context": null, "run_ref": "01M7DD89X084JKN6SRXC4C69EX", "signals": [{"quote": "So they're, they're kind of, if you're, if you're a good fund like that, you basically are guaranteed on your downside | observed | artifact ↗ | 2021-03-24 | promoted | 0.50 |
source.document.reference | {"kind": "video", "title": "Sahil Lavingia on Gumroad's groundbreaking equity crowdfunding, rolling funds & more | E1188 — kleiner-perkins", "source_id": "01KXRSPMQKYAV7KY23YBP9BH64-m-709dd25970cc9ca4 | observed | artifact ↗ | 2021-03-24 | normalized | 0.95 |