SPEAKER_00: investors are loading into this company at this crazy valuation they don't even have a customer yet there was a little controversy is bmw a customer or not looks like bmw is in fact using them in production they shared a video of that that was still a little controversial that video

SPEAKER_02: a lot of people are arguing an arm would have been better for that job than the whole robot or

SPEAKER_04: what's the robot really doing so there is still a lot of back and forth even after they should okay

SPEAKER_06: there always is there always is with new technology but this thing looks great um it's uh stunning

SPEAKER_08: looking and of course the fixed robot is going to work better for tighter tasks but it will ultimately not have the flexibility of going around the world what i like about this new figure one is it has inductive charging at the feet somebody took a screenshot of the foot and um you know these things are probably a couple years away from being in your home doing productive stuff and they the world is made for you know the world we created as humans is made for the human form like our shelving and etc and what you're seeing here is this thing is um they show it here um you know bringing

SPEAKER_09: food out to the table washing dishes putting out water glasses it's the very show for a reason robot

SPEAKER_04: butler i mean this is exactly what you think of if you had like a robot made a robot butler it's cooking for them it's cleaning the house it's bringing them stuff it's playing with the dog here

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SPEAKER_18: welcome back to this week in startups alex has uh some sick babies and nannies you know how it goes

SPEAKER_19: two or three times a year this happens when you got those kids they come home from school and uh with us today lon harris is here to co-host the show oliver you're still on camera you probably want to

SPEAKER_24: turn your camera off then uh there we go all righty and producer oliver folks give him a hand doing a

SPEAKER_26: great job he's doing yeah he's editing and manning the show today all by himself for the first time

SPEAKER_28: i love it i love it well what's on the docket let's get to work sure uh number one we got a big story

SPEAKER_04: that you may have noticed your stocks uh maybe took a little bit of a tip today that's because president trump has threatened to cancel a planned meeting with chinese president xi jinping after the country has restricted u.s access to rare earth minerals there is of course a very long truth social post from our president uh we could pull that up or actually he is the main character isn't he

SPEAKER_31: he's he is our main character for today here is the tweet so let me pull this he's the main character

SPEAKER_04: every day let's be honest he's trying so this he's he posted an essay this morning about uh his issues with china some very strange things are happening in china they are becoming very hostile sending letters to countries throughout the world that they want to impose export controls on each and every element of production having to do with rare earths and virtually anything else they can think of even if it's not manufactured in china nobody has ever seen anything like this it would clog the markets uh it goes on and on and on he threatens to cancel the meeting uh he says there's no reason to meet with president xi in two weeks uh he also complains that the uh chinese planned this announcement specifically to overshadow his big uh peace in the middle east announcement uh and he's promising major major new tariffs uh on china to that threaten to reignite uh our sort of trade war back and forth with the chinese now why this matters these minerals that we're discussing are desperately needed by u.s companies they have a lot of applications in defense but we're mainly concerned with their applications in the semiconductor market they're considered vital to america's competitive edge in ai so that's really where we're sort of worried and the big question on everybody's mind is this a permanent change is this china's policy now or is this attempted leverage ahead of these planned trade talks which may or may not uh go ahead so what do you what do you think jason is this a is this the new reality of our world where everybody's going to have to make their own rare earth minerals

SPEAKER_42: or is this just you know like they're ahead of the negotiation they're trying to get the best deal they

SPEAKER_44: can yeah i always tell people remember my um you know rules of president trump number one he

SPEAKER_21: says a lot of things uh number two always wait like 72 hours before you know um thinking that these things are going to stick or could be permanent in some way so he likes to riff in public riff on you know truth and before that on twitter it's kind of a superpower he has uh in terms of just communicating directly with the populace and doing negotiations with people on social media this is the new reality a lot of companies do this a lot of ceos do it so i would just pause and not worry about it i think every time we've seen some sort of negotiation whether it's what's happening uh in the middle east and he deserves all the credit in the world um you know for the ceasefire there and let's hope it goes all the way to permanent peace i think it's got a pretty good chance probably i would say majority chance of that happening yeah and then you know hey listen he's worked relentlessly to try to get the ukraine and russia situation resolved hasn't had success there yet but he might and i think the the the peacenik uh hippy dippy president trump is one of my favorite trump's he's just he's great at these uh negotiations even though you might not like the way they're executed or they might cause a lot of hand wringing along the way so i wouldn't worry about that and then when it comes to rare earths you know you do rip up the earth you scar the earth when you are pulling these out of

SPEAKER_08: the ground yeah china um has a top-down control system and they realize the value of these they're not precious about uh the environment like we are in the united states or certainly in europe so they're roughly two-thirds 70 percent of the rare earth's uh production and processing processing them is a bunch of work too in the world so you know we do need to take care of that dependency we have plenty of rare earths here brazil's got a ton australia's got a ton there's tons of rare earths around it's just a matter of do you want to do the processing and can you do it at a reasonable price and just like um we saw with ppe and uh chips we're just going to have to live in a world where we become a bit more resilient and i guarantee that's what's going to happen we will see um us turn on rare earths here we have plenty of them in nevada and other places we're just not doing it and so this the the fallback plan to letting other people rip up the rare earths and process them at the cheapest price possible aka globalization is uh to go to the next provider australia brazil whoever and do a deal in fact ukraine has a lot of rare earths remember when we were doing our negotiation there uh trump said uh we're gonna keep supplying weapons if we can get access to those railroads and be your partner on it so that's probably why he uh flip sides from being a bit pro-russian to being uh fully behind ukraine so it is what it is i wouldn't do too much handwriting about it the stock market is uh looking

SPEAKER_51: for a reason to pull back because it's been so hot i did ask producer claude uh what percent of the

SPEAKER_04: world's rare earth minerals are found in china uh great response china holds approximately 36 to 38 percent of the world's known rare earth mineral reserves but more significantly china produces

SPEAKER_02: about 60 to 70 percent of the world's rare earth minerals annually giving it a very dominant position there so that is weak we could sort of get more competitive in the us in that but we have not yet and i would remind you if you want to level up your ai collaborations like we just did you go to claude.ai twist and twist listeners get 50 off their first three months of claude pro what a

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SPEAKER_04: single episode we rely on producer claude so number two we got to talk about this so sora very much in the news hugely popular app it's blowing up it already hit one million downloads in just five days after launching that is very notably according to open ai faster than chat gpt hit the same milestone so now indispensable 800 million regular users around the world could we be looking at that kind of a future for sora it's been number one on the apple app store since launching but of course there's been a lot of controversy about the inclusion of real people there was a zelda williams robin williams daughter has publicly asked people please stop sending her ai generated videos of her dad it makes her very sad there was another controversial thing a lot of people are making offensive videos of stephen hawking in his wheelchair being blown up or thrown off of buildings people are as we mentioned on the show the other day people are making martin luther king say crazy things the motion picture association of america

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SPEAKER_04: registrar and grab your dot tech domain today there are a few celebrities that have now embraced sora 2 as a way of getting themselves out there promoting what they're doing marketing themselves so we've got two key examples so far the first jake paul the youtube influencer turned wrestler boxer uh he says that he is an open ai investor now he's been advising the sora team behind the scenes and that he agreed to be the first celebrity name image and likeness cameo user uh and so he goes you know this has been great it's been you know very helpful for him in promoting himself we've got a screen uh let me share this

SPEAKER_64: real quick he uh he posted this tweet here is it's it's a he believes that letting people do whatever they want with his likeness makes him more popular so have at it yeah in his view he says in six days my

SPEAKER_04: cameo generated over 1 billion views and you know so if you're an influencer if you're part of the attention economy and your whole goal is to grab people's attention i mean that's success in a way we do have some of the source so you can see they're not necessarily all kind to him

SPEAKER_70: yay so yeah they got him acting as a baby so you have to have a thick skin for this say they put him in

SPEAKER_75: drag here he's a pregnant lady having a shower a gift for me oh okay let me see let me see oh girl

SPEAKER_56: look at these colors so we can see uh and the the other example uh mark cuban has put himself in oh

SPEAKER_04: he now will let you anybody on sora can make videos with mark cuban but the clever wrinkle here most of the cameos include a promotion for his company cost plus drugs he actually got it so at the end of the cameo with him they actually bring up a little message saying you know visit cost plus drugs or promoting cost plus drugs which is a pretty fast wait is that a feature you can do where you

SPEAKER_80: say you can use me but you have to give me the end slide like that's an actual feature in this or

SPEAKER_04: he not they they somehow behind the scenes they set this up with mark cuban you and i don't have the access well maybe you could contact uh mr altman and get in there uh but yeah let's take a look here is one of uh i made a i made this this morning to show off uh mark cuban and cost plus drugs in

SPEAKER_83: sore let's start at the beginning oh launch something i'm really proud of it's called pay more for drugs.com you pay a little extra you feel like a vip see right here on the site whoa

SPEAKER_85: whoa whoa hold up what it's premium so there you go that's funny so you used me because i gave you

SPEAKER_64: permission as a friend or mutual to use my likeness so you put me in there with them

SPEAKER_51: yeah i had you guys make a little a little uh drug commercial together but i didn't tell it pull

SPEAKER_42: up cost plus drugs dot com at the end it did that all on its own this seems like a reasonable uh wrinkle

SPEAKER_64: to the you can use my likeness they're being very granular about it they obviously took a lot of

SPEAKER_08: lessons from youtube's content id system i think what they should do is give you the ability to put a banner at the top of the bottom persistently in all of these put a watermark on it like they have sora and the watermark should be like whatever you want it to be costplusdrugs.com and it should you should be able to place it wherever you want if so for mutuals i could say do whatever you want um but you have to end with a slide just like that tick tock slide that shows your account and

SPEAKER_96: does that little blue blue sound yeah you could you could make that required you could just pick and choose what you want to do as a brand or as a character that's owned by a brand and then you could

SPEAKER_08: start to put in things you don't want done with the brand so please i don't want to you know have you do any gender bending you know swapping ideas i you know i find that offensive or i'm cool with

SPEAKER_42: that so right or they're gonna get very violent you know like you know sexual situation like you can

SPEAKER_04: know politics right people could start to sort of distinguish the kinds of stuff that they want i i do think that's what i say i i feel like we're in a cultural shift moment there was that trough of disillusionment everybody kind of hates ai and there was a big push against it yeah uh you know and now i feel like we're we are starting to come out of it i don't know if you saw disney did the tron aries uh yeah here this week and they had not only did they had tesla optimus robots running around but they had a whole thing where you could use grok to put yourself if you were attending the premiere

SPEAKER_56: they had a whole station where you could make yourself very cool on the grid from tron using grok

SPEAKER_19: so i do feel like i got invited to this san francisco prayer thanks to my friend jared leto for inviting me sorry i couldn't make it you know stars in the new film i can't wait to see it

SPEAKER_107: it looks pretty good actually it does look cool i i like that very cool that nine inch nail

SPEAKER_19: soundtrack sounds good all right so i actually listened to the nine inch nail soundtrack on my new uh i get i'm in love with the speaker brand kef it's not a sponsorship i just like it and um i have co-buzz i talked about that not a sponsorship q-o-b-u-z where they have the high

SPEAKER_50: res files yeah i did the high res nine inch nail soundtrack on my new kef portable speaker and it was delightful man what a great soundtrack i think it's gonna win awards yeah it's cool well i think

SPEAKER_08: they understand like blade runner and vangelis you know you can get like these really serious um right

SPEAKER_64: stars to do this kind of sci-fi music um interstellar has a pretty epic one yeah well i mean yeah like

SPEAKER_51: johnny greenwood from radio had started doing pt anderson movies he just did one battle after

SPEAKER_42: another and atticus ross and trent reznor have been doing that yeah daft punk did tron legacy so yeah it's happening more and more and they're they're all yeah it's a nice it's a nice collaboration

SPEAKER_50: mark knoffler did a started doing a bunch of soundtracks in the 80s because he just had so much

SPEAKER_115: creative energy oh there's oh there's a i'm blank we'll talk about later there's an 80s movie that ends with a very memorable mark knoffler song and i'm just blanking on it uh it's probably a local

SPEAKER_04: hero is what yeah there you go that's the one i was thinking uh all right so great film it is a great film so open ai has actually introduced integrations of various apps inside chat gpt so you can interact it's almost like the first level of agentic ai to come to chat gpt you can use chat gpt to actually effect changes and do things in various connected apps we're joined now by producer oliver he made a little demo video showcasing how some of these integrations work all right producer oliver

SPEAKER_08: uh graduates from high school in two years nice to see you uh god he looks so young on camera um what did you what did you learn about the product i tried to use it because i saw the demo you sent me but it wasn't in my chat gp yet gpt yet so is it something you have to do so the apps in chat gpt

SPEAKER_125: is not available on work accounts which is a problem that i face so i had to use it on my personal account then also you have to enable all the different connections um so what are they doing

SPEAKER_08: wait why why would they launch it i guess i have my personal account here but why would they launch it

SPEAKER_128: not to business users first and give it to the free users it makes no sense this is exactly what google

SPEAKER_26: does it's so done it's the same thing it's also what they did with sora it's just what they did with sora they bypassed the paid level and they just started giving it to people with invites for

SPEAKER_134: free no respect no respect for the subscribers i get no respect for putting my credit card in okay so show us how it works let's get to it so what are we seeing here so you're able to connect with

SPEAKER_125: the different applications as i mentioned canva xpedia directly to chat gpt simply by using the at symbol and then typing that company name and then it'll know that you're trying to use that app so here i'm enabling the connections connecting to figma you had to download your account and have it open kind of on your screen so the first kind of example i did was spotify so i kind of had the example of some co-workers wanted a playlist from me so i went into chat gpt said at chat gpt created a playlist for my co-worker they like these songs i like these songs i kind of wanted them to have some songs in the place they would relate to because sometimes you know people don't like a full new batch of songs so i was able to prompt chat gpt to create a playlist and it was able to create it in like 10 to 30 seconds it was pretty quick and then it had this playlist of um that i can bring that i can open from chat gpt directly into spotify i will say really interesting i use the spotify

SPEAKER_04: one too and it's amazing you can give it like three or four very granular instructions and it will follow so i was like find me the most popular songs that appeared originally on 90s movie soundtracks and don't include any other songs that i have on any other playlist and like instantly it followed all those instructions so you can really like start thinking layers deep about what kinds of music you want it to find and it'll find it for you it's pretty cool hey listen we meet a lot of early

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SPEAKER_19: you i love this because one of my first use cases when using these llms was to say hey i'm a big fan

SPEAKER_21: of mark knoffler and uh what other artists would be similar and it told me about this artist chris ray and then i got into chris ray and went down that rabbit hole and it never made that connection for

SPEAKER_08: me on spotify so they must have ingested all of this information or all the information on the web and then they've normalized it and you can take action so it reminds me of the comet browser where we'll take actions it's actually after you authenticate with it uh and this is what i showed in my nostrikanis kpmg talk this year was exactly hey what if you could authenticate chat gpt at the new york times website or new york times at the chat gpt website and here you're kind of doing the latter

SPEAKER_21: you're authenticating your chat gpt into other services and then you can interact with it in chat gpt and what will be very interesting is when you can do this across two different services so if you

SPEAKER_64: said exactly email uh the you could say you want to do this playlist and then you could say please

SPEAKER_21: email it make a canva invite to a listening party and then email it to my friends and thread together

SPEAKER_08: three instructions yeah just by having the at and just by at mentioning things in here really interesting um good job by the team over at spotify and um yeah i will say that spotify was

SPEAKER_123: i think the the best done integration the other ones were impressive but i think spotify has a great ui

SPEAKER_125: they have great recommendation algorithms already built into spotify what's your next uh what was your next one yeah yeah so here i have canva so i use canva a lot canva has a lot of great tools you have the different effects you can use the different gradients you can bring in so i had it create a poster for a dg event called another kick drum and so i kind of gave it a little bit of a prompt and it this is one that i thought was the best you can see it's kind of it's it's okay i ask it to make some gradients in the background and have like a retro house aesthetic i didn't think it did a great job but i think it was okay but the great thing about that is you can actually open it directly into chat gpt in canva then edit it from there so it's kind of great in terms of the ideation stage where you can really get from zero to one and kind of get a lot of ideas and then kind of go and build on it yourself

SPEAKER_152: so that's kind of yeah or hand it off to a designer right so a lot of times the customer

SPEAKER_08: inside of an organization you know and on the sales department uh the event production department the hr department they want to make something they make a rough draft of it and then they send it to the designer well here you know instead of writing a design brief which would be all text and maybe linking to a you know a inspiration board you're like making some versions and then sending it to the design team but they can just start editing really great integration there as

SPEAKER_125: well that's fascinating one thing i loved about it actually was that when you open it in canva this is expected but i think a great hard thing in canva is finding like a great text font so you were able to actually go into canva and you can see it it knew what font that was and then i was able to use that font or choose another one so i think that was probably the the best part

SPEAKER_08: of this integration interesting comment from bay watson in our live youtube room if you're not on the live team go to this week in startups.com youtube and it will subscribe you and you can put the bell on and you get a notification when we go live on monday wednesday and fridays and bay comments liability that's why i think they use the free accounts really interesting yes people are paying for it yes that's a really great insight i bet that i bet that's correct i bet that is right because

SPEAKER_58: then it's like you're doing it as an individual that's different from launch doing it yeah and something

SPEAKER_125: that was interesting about the canva chat gbt integration is canva was actually the only app that you couldn't use with the free plan so i had to actually get chat gbt plus in order to use the canva integration and they did say that this is because canva needed deep research which i guess makes sense because you know it's pulling together all these different fonts and images so that was just another interesting note there yeah interesting all right what's what's this next one yeah yeah so we have figma here i haven't spent much time in figma but i know a lot of people love it and some of the early examples that i saw on x and youtube were people creating org charts so i created an org chart for a big dj event that i was referencing in the canva video and you can see you're able to open it up in figma similar to how you were able to in canva as well awesome well done to our producer oliver nicely

SPEAKER_42: done oliver yeah i used one more i tried the expedia one that one i thought was a little disappointing i'll

SPEAKER_04: be honest uh it it it has similar problems where it can't do the last step you know it's like well i found three great trips but i can't book it for you should go to expedia and do that so it doesn't have like as deep an integration as some of the other ones yeah i will say last thing the the

SPEAKER_123: the expedia and booking.com it's kind of the same problem where you're you can't get as far as you

SPEAKER_125: can in spotify where you're able to like open it up or in canva you're able to open it up and kind of start that's kind of a great end product there and that you can use but in booking.com it kind of just gives you some options and you can't really go deeper but i will say some of the apps that are coming soon are uber open table doordash so i'm really excited to see how those are able to integrate or you can be able to call an uber directly from your chat so i think that moving forward this is going to apps directly in the chat interfaces are going to just make everyone spend more time in these chat interfaces and i think it's pretty exciting i'm excited to see how that goes another question oh sorry go ahead no get to the question i was just gonna say we have another

SPEAKER_04: question from the noties uh sarah freeman asks what do you see as the impact to the need or sometimes potentially competitive advantage to company website uis appearing versus just using the app in chat gpt so i think sarah's asking like is this always going to be a thing where we're going to go to canva to finish working on our design or do you think one day soon canva will be fully integrated in chat gpt and we'll just use it there what do you think oliver you have a prediction yeah i

SPEAKER_125: think that um master oliver yeah i think that that's what um open ai is leaning towards um in the zillow um integration you could actually like go into zillow and zoom in on different maps and even click on the property like you would in zillow go through the photos so zillow kind of had the most full ui in chat gpt so i think it will be possible i think that you i think that it might become strained in chat gpt might be strained having all these different integrations um so i think that they will do that but only for a few apps i think that one thing that was interesting um in their announcement is that they said that apps that meet the standards provided by our developer guidelines will be eligible to be listed and those and this is the important part is that they said that the most those that meet the higher design and functionality standards will be featured more prominently both in the directory and in the conversation so i think that there will be 10 to 15 apps that have a great ui um and that will oh they'll be they'll want integration yeah

SPEAKER_50: there'll be thousands of these it'll be exactly like the app store and that's how they're modeling

SPEAKER_19: it and this is like their second or third swing at the bat doing these integrations and there'll be a second way to do it which is you'll be able to launch a browser and um we do a thing here where one of our athena assistants if you want an athena assistant you want to use my discount code go to athenawow.com and i'll give you like a a month off and i have two of them and what's super interesting um is i had my athena assistant just tell me every week hey of our founders what are

SPEAKER_21: they promoting on linkedin or on x just let me know what's going on in the portfolio on social media so i can engage with it maybe i give people a retweet or i give them an attaboy attagirl reply whatever it is so this week i tried a test using the common browser powered with claude ai and i put in 10 of those linkedin posts from people in founder university or the accelerator and i said um open each of these pages like the post repost the post visit the profile find the follow button hit follow then try to find the connect button which sometimes exists and sometimes doesn't exist and then connect with them and then create a report on what you did and which thing which of the steps worked and then um go back and spot check three of the things i asked you to do and that if they worked and it did it now this was

SPEAKER_08: like a multi-step process and i was like this is pretty interesting and then i did one this morning hey go find me the top 100 uh private companies find two sources put it in a table and then go to

SPEAKER_21: the twist 500.com list and tell me what's missing and um it couldn't quite do that one which i don't know if it's like its ability to scrape the twist 500 side in our navigation there which it might be um but it did some it did some of it uh so i think there's going to be multiple ways to do this and this is a big challenge for each of these brands because now they have an intermediary who's intercepting them which means they might charge them money yeah so that's going to be the business model here for the free accounts when you're just going to say i want travel results and it's going to default to xpedia or whoever pays the highest price and it's going to be like yeah our partner xpedia boom here it is right and uh you're going to have to explicitly say no i don't want xpedia i want to go directly to the united website which the browser will do but um really interesting progress here we're starting to see the applications and the proof of concepts turn into actual functioning products that save you time and delight you great job oliver come back next week with another demo okay

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SPEAKER_179: that's interesting on on spotify they tried to make their own ai like they have that ai dj

SPEAKER_04: it doesn't really work that great the chat gpt plugin for spotify is so much more powerful already than spotify's native ui i think or native ai i think that's what we're seeing is like all these

SPEAKER_42: companies were like oh we're gonna just make our own ai it's a little harder than maybe they thought

SPEAKER_21: open ai this becomes a distribution channel so it's worth it for anybody with a product to

SPEAKER_08: create this and then it's also worth it for them to make their own mobile app in this example to make their and to incorporate other llms as their default at their websites right you're going to have tons

SPEAKER_21: of open sources another uh company here in the united states we just announced a big round and they're just doing open source like deep seek in china so we're starting to see open source llms come to america and funded companies doing that you know i i think the functionality we're seeing today is going to be easily done by an open source free llm running on your local computer or phone so eventually it's not like chat gpt will be giving you this functionality because they have a billion users or xai will have a half billion users or two billion users wherever it winds up so they'll be like distribution partners but i think all of this functionality is quickly commoditized it used to be united just didn't know how to make a you know a website or you know walmart and target might make an app um or united might make an app but they were kludgy and so people just go to amazon now i go to a local restaurant or a local coffee shop and like they have their order ahead app mcdonald's has a great app starbucks has a great app you just it's gotten easier to make this stuff and so the same thing will happen

SPEAKER_04: with ai do you want to talk about reflection ai the open source american ai company what a beautiful segue you laid out yeah let's do it yeah they're on the docket uh so the question is can the us really compete with china on open source ai the american ai company reflection ai they hope to answer this question they raised two billion at an eight billion dollar valuation that's a massive 15x jump from the 545 million dollar valuation they clocked just seven months ago that's according to tech crunch uh the company was founded in march 2024 by former google staffers including misha laskin who led reward modeling for deep minds gemini project and ianis and tanaglu who co-created alpha go so they are very similar to what deep seek's doing they're building open source ai models they're trying to make them sort of faster and more efficient than some of the big behemoth models uh that we've been seeing from open ai xai and anthropic uh so the uh here's the quote on why what they're trying to do differently the frontier is currently concentrated in closed labs if this continues a handful of entities will control the capital compute and talent required to build ai creating a runaway dynamic that locks everyone else out so this is their sort of attempt to respond to that uh and of course with chinese we got a lot of very popular chinese open source models but they pose a lot of security risks for the west am i sending my company's data to the ccp or other bad actors in china and so forth uh but there is still lingering concern that china is going to develop the most used ai models if everybody decides open source instead of closed source is the future so this is sort of a hopeful attempt to uh remain competitive on that level uh we had uh ai czar david sachs uh friend oh i know him no friend of uh yeah a friend of james uh yeah you've met him a few times so he has actually

SPEAKER_32: chimed in on this uh i will screen share it with us presently so we can okay i see it here it's great

SPEAKER_19: to see more american open source ai models a meaningful segment of the global market will prefer the cost customizability and control of the open source that open source offers that open source offers we want the us to win this category too so you notice

SPEAKER_21: the word two at the end you know david is in a unique position because well he's got a lot of friends and partners in the industry uh his previous firm had a bunch of investments he had to divest from

SPEAKER_08: and so he's doing a really good job here of you know playing the statesman uh correctly and saying i'm not picking winners i want to see many winners in the u.s a vibrant ecosystem and really uh a lot of investment and a lot of competition he's done an a-plus job uh david uh in his position and it's not an easy position to be in because you know you've got a global competition going on here we have a

SPEAKER_21: unique administration that has many different factions oh it's got many different factions inside of it you know and you got you got a leader who is involved he's got that main character energy he wants to be involved in anything it's i gotta say you know sax has a any anybody working in the trump

SPEAKER_08: administration 45 or 47 it's challenging um he's a polarizing guy and uh you know that it is what it is but he's done a really good job of sticking to his lane sticking to his knitting staying in his lane and really focusing on what matters and what matters in terms of his role there is getting that government the heck out of the way so that there is a vibrant competition reflection and i would love to have him on the program let's let's book the ceo here but i'm rooting for them because

SPEAKER_21: the original mission of opening i was to be open source and i hope they make a model that really challenges the closed source models and the expensive models and drives price down and and

SPEAKER_08: they'll make a great business having uh i'm sure their business model will be just like wordpress hey we got this open source project here uh or mysql we had open source project here but we have a for-profit you know so there's a dot org and a dot com right the dot com wordpress.com you pay for

SPEAKER_21: hosting but wordpress.com has to deal with wp engine which you know some people prefer over

SPEAKER_80: wordpress.com hosting you know so you when you open source this stuff you you create a bunch of competitors if it works so reflection ai will inspire a bunch of people to create hosted versions of

SPEAKER_21: their product including aws including google cloud exactly but this is what we want to see we want to see free versions and this is great for startups most of all right because startups are going to move faster they're going to fork this thing they're going to make unique contributions to it and you know open source almost always wins unless there's a network effect and so i think you know the question here is will the network effect of xai plus you know the massive colossus data center and right the twitter data now x.com data will open ai with their soar proprietary data now which i think that's what that is it's a it's a it's a play to get proprietary data you know in their network of partners will that

SPEAKER_08: uh give them enough to win over developers or where developers say you know what i just don't want to invest in you know this category so you see this all the time people have a choice should i use an open source version of slack and you know what the network effect of slack and the feature set and the cost is below you know the the hardship that you know running an open source slack does but for databases and

SPEAKER_21: servers people go all open source because they they think that they're more secure more stable and more

SPEAKER_02: scalable right uh i mean it goes back to the commodification of llms that we've talked about so many times how they're they're the product right now but one day soon they could be the

SPEAKER_04: layer upon which the exciting products are being built uh alex before he got sick he did leave us one question for you here in this story how do you think reflection ai is going to make money from these open models they can't really just do the normal hosting open source playbook of oh so

David Friedberg: hosting their code for others to you hosting it yeah so you know just like wordpress like you could

SPEAKER_21: literally take the wordpress code put up a server and do all that but if you want the latest version you want faster servers you want somebody doing the security and the operations and upgrading it and installing the patches you just go with the hosted version and the cost of you uh managing your own reflection ai servers uh if you're doing something small to mid-size is greater than having the reflection ai team hosted now if you're a giant company if you're amazon and you decide or your walmart and walmart decides hey we want to have reflection ai doing stuff internally or doing stuff on our website yeah then you'll stand up your own server cluster and manage it yourself because you

SPEAKER_135: have a tech team yeah right fair enough uh all right we got we got a pressing question from reddit

SPEAKER_204: you want to feel this one i love a good rapid response we love a good reddit rapid response so

SPEAKER_04: here's the query it's uh from r slash startups where we spend so much time dear needle worker 359 writes should i recruit locally or go fully remote i'm in the early stages of building a startup and trying to figure out how much in-person collaboration really matters now part of me loves the idea of having a team close being able to grab coffee brainstorm in person do something like a christmas get together and build real camaraderie i feel like those small in-person moments help shape culture early on but the other part of me knows that by going remote i could tap into a much larger talent pool maybe find stronger technical talent than what's immediately nearby so to those of you who built early teams they want to know did being local make a huge difference is it more about finding the right people wherever they are and if you do go remote how do you keep a sense of connection

SPEAKER_21: and shared culture yeah that's a great question yeah the companies that uh are in office and um you know uh will have companies in office will have better product velocity better cultures they'll move faster because they'll be finishing each other sentences they'll be out whiteboards together it's just really high bandwidth when you're in the same room and it turns out i would say about half of people who are working remote are phoning it in are doing less uh they're they're you know they're just not as efficient and you don't have mentorship either yeah and then i would say the top 20 are more effective working from home because you take out a commute and you maybe get a discount on salaries

SPEAKER_08: because you're shipping the work to a lower cost place um and you have that advantage as the person kind of notes that you just you're you're tapping the global workforce yeah but i'll give you one

SPEAKER_21: uh important thing and then i would say maybe 30 percent of people in my experience this is my lived experience are as effective in the office or remote so i've decided to go back to in person we now have when i had my management meeting the other day i think we had 11 people in the office and yeah

SPEAKER_42: it's 11 remote it's a it's 11 when we fill up that room with our management meeting yeah

SPEAKER_04: yeah yeah and then maybe nine remote i think yeah that sounds about right 20 person organization and

SPEAKER_209: a little more than half are here yeah and i'm not gonna hire more remote if i can avoid it uh and uh

SPEAKER_08: i'll continue moving people who are remote back to in office if they're not you know the highest level of

SPEAKER_21: performers so that's the way i've managed the transition but i will tell you vcs if they see your five or ten people in an office and a hundred percent in person they will fund your company at twice the rate of remote teams vcs have seen this up close and personal the in-person teams move faster have better product velocity have better cultures more excitement um and they just go

SPEAKER_19: further faster yeah that's it if you want to raise money yeah you have a personal stake when you

SPEAKER_04: show up every day you have a personal stake in the product in the company in the team you are motivated to see it succeed when you're at home i did i worked around for five years and you get disconnected it you're you're doing your work and then you're sending it out into the void and you don't ever see what happens to it and i feel like that disconnects you from the goal you're not

SPEAKER_42: you're not goal oriented anymore because you're just like well i got to get today's stuff done and then i'm done i can watch tv and i i do so i feel like being here makes me more focused on yeah

SPEAKER_21: you're totally more engaged and it's i'll be totally honest like i think people get depressed working from home and being socially isolated and i think young people can't be mentored remotely so who can

SPEAKER_19: you have remote i got a guy matt uh who works for me and uh is an incredible sales person he likes to ski this guy is a killer just top three sales executive i've worked with and i've worked with

SPEAKER_96: hundreds love working with him and i told him i don't care where you want to work i don't care how you want to work put up numbers like you're putting up you can be difficult you could be easy to work with you could be i don't care if you're selling stuff from the he likes to ski like me i

SPEAKER_08: don't care if you're selling from the ski lift yeah put those numbers up now for everybody else young people no no sorry um now i do have some high performers because we were remote during covet and i just said hey you're grandfathered in if you're in the top third of performers i'll make another note if you are a young individual you want to be as close to the ceo as possible the founders as close as you

SPEAKER_21: can get to power you want to be why you want them to notice you you want them to you want to impress them so you can have career advancement you can't do that remote it's hard to do remote you're just a cog in the wheel if you're remote and and that is a two-way street i think you kind of alluded to this because you're not invested in the company yes which means the company can move on from you at any

SPEAKER_08: time and yeah there's no like no no problem yeah you're not part of the culture anyway we can just

SPEAKER_217: move on i think it goes both ways yeah absolutely the person can be like that's just work arriving

SPEAKER_04: every day and nobody knows where it came from it's like okay that got done but there's no face behind it it does it definitely is a two-way street yeah and and you know i gotta say i started

SPEAKER_08: you know really investing in young people coming out of college why did i do that i found a lot of the people who were more senior in venture capital had developed bad habits one of those bad habits is never being in an office one of those bad habits is working four hours a day uh and just not being hard driving yeah i found if uh you know if i hire folks right out of school and put them in a training program uh like you just saw producer oliver come on here and do a great job that because i am willing to invest in two things professional development on the venture side but also executive training which you run here at the company uh along with jackie in person every morning at 9 a.m the new people at the company go to executive training at the end of the day at 6 p.m uh they report back and they do another 15 minutes of executive training at the end of the day maybe unpack how that's worked for the four individuals we have in executive training here uh i think it's great i think it forces you

SPEAKER_04: to think more strategically about your day i think that for a lot of people it you know when work starts piling up you've got a lot to do it just becomes like uh thoughtless like i'm just going to start taking stuff from the top of the pile and jamming my way through it and i think that what we sort of talk about so much in executive training is like looking at your entire day holistically and try to figure out where you can save time where you can prioritize and just kind of taking it up that one level i feel like that's what we spend the most time on is like well i was going to take this two hour chunk and do this and then do this and then do this and it's all kind of haphazard and it's like well how about really thinking about it in terms of the flow of your day when does this need to get done when does this need to get that could you do part of this and then move part of it to the next day and just just like being a little bit more strategic about that and your approach and time management and thinking about time management and planning ahead like well what if that takes me an extra hour what would i not get done and pushed it tomorrow and like i feel like that is new for a lot of people who have not had a high pressure executive function is something that's

SPEAKER_19: just yeah executive function is just not taught anywhere anymore no and this is going to be the

SPEAKER_21: big problem of the next decade um if you come into the workforce and ai as we just saw is able to make a kick-ass playlist or an invite to a party you know it's going to be able to do a corporate event and it's going to be able to make a list of partners who uh and sales potential sales partners and those were the entry-run jobs so all the entry-run jobs all the first jobs are going to be done by ai this is why we're seeing a massive gap amongst young people even with computer science degrees getting jobs it's going to expand folks i would predict we'll be sitting here next year and the number of young people unable to find jobs is going to go up at least 50 percent that's a big number like if it's

SPEAKER_50: six seven eight percent right now i think it's going to 10 15. it's scary it's going to take over the

SPEAKER_45: dialogue it's scary on a few levels because then it's like well if you don't have those entry-level

SPEAKER_02: people anymore where does the next generation of that industry come from how do we train tomorrow's leaders if we don't have those entry-level jobs i'll tell you the one other thing we go over a

SPEAKER_04: a lot in management training and this is as an older person in the workforce you're probably with me on being frustrated by this i feel like in schools it is not results focused it's like how far did you get well you did your best well like this is three quarters of the way done and so i feel like when you get a lot of young people in a business situation there's a lot of like well i did it until i ran into this problem and then completion of the task is an issue not just letting an obstacle be like well i have to stop and then i'll go to my boss and say there's a problem it's like well what can we do to move that boulder out of the way like could we go around it could we go over it could we smash it and it's like just training people to like don't just throw your hands up when one thing goes wrong like think about how you could solve it without having to bother another person and take them away from what they're doing and i think that is a skill that we do not teach young people and then their bosses has to teach them when they're in their 20s you know i had this uh happen

SPEAKER_152: uh domestically as well you know you own a couple of homes and all of a sudden estate management and

SPEAKER_08: managing properties becomes an issue and the dishwasher is not working it's given a code 37 and then people are like yeah the dishes aren't working i've done the dishes by hand for three days and i'm like okay and i put an ipad in the kitchen uh and i just said you know go to youtube i showed them how to use voiceover and i said i'm getting an era 17 code on my you know whatever dish wine gm dishwasher what does it mean and how do i resolve it find me videos in a summary and i talked about how to use chat gpt i taught them how to use youtube and now people are just empowered here we go and so this is actually you know hitting everything from literally a housekeeper to a nanny hey what are

SPEAKER_96: some things i can do on a ranch with kids on a rainy day and it's like yeah okay well you can do a rain hike oh you could do some look under rocks for insects and then make a catalog of them so it's

SPEAKER_08: like all kinds of interesting things you can do but you might not have been exposed to it and this

SPEAKER_96: is uh yeah so anyway great job to you and jackie on doing the executive training um all of my friends now are like please take my child i'll pay you to executive train them i'll i'll literally pay you

SPEAKER_21: to employ my child so literally i could make a fortune right now just telling my friends pay me fifty thousand dollars a year and i will turn your kid into a venture capital i don't do that i pay them a salary um but well i'm almost thinking yeah that would be a paid apprenticeship i

SPEAKER_26: think paid apprentices should come back we keep talking about trade schools but this is almost

SPEAKER_04: like the next like if you want to be an executive there isn't a trade school for that specifically there's business school but like that's almost what you're talking about a hybrid it's business school but as a trade school just teaches you how to do the job of being an executive that's interesting

SPEAKER_21: well i mean and what are people spending on college on average now 40 50 60 000 a year oh if you said it's crazy you know if you said to me uh listen um you know your daughter wants to uh work in uh you know fashion and you said i have a fashion internship uh not an internship a fashion apprenticeship and it's thirty thousand dollars a year you pay for it and uh your kid does not get paid i'd be like thirty thousand dollars a year is half the price of fit i'll take that i would rather them be in your place so i think this could be an unlock now obviously you got to give scholarships that everybody can afford the thirty thousand or whatever but this model of apprenticeship i think

SPEAKER_96: could change everything and i don't need the money to do it but i do think that this should exist in the world yeah if you exist in some way in the world fit them the fashion institute

SPEAKER_04: of design and merchandising in la uh if one academic year 35k for an undergrad 44k for a grad student so that over two three years that's a lot of money imagine if you could just get an internship or an apprenticeship at a fashion company or a design company and just start working we have

SPEAKER_08: actually a startup in our portfolio it's really clever it's called extern.com and uh you can do these

SPEAKER_80: externships so you can from home go through some courses and get to work at great companies and uh

SPEAKER_21: the companies are you know pretty interesting companies and so extern provides you with fully managed project teams to accelerate strategic projects so that's their pitch to the companies and the pitch to the students it's obviously pretty clear invest in your career build real experience work on remote projects to get real professional experience and start and stand out in the job

SPEAKER_19: market so i appreciate if anybody goes and checks out extern.com and you know give me some feedback

SPEAKER_08: on how it goes for you but really i love the founder of this company it's just a great company and i just think education and like anytime you have a problem in society you create an opportunity for entrepreneurs to solve it because you know the government's not going to solve it the government

SPEAKER_96: gets involved it's just going to be a disaster how dare you i mean these guys can't even keep the airports safe i'm no offense i'm just saying you know like i know people are under stress at the

SPEAKER_164: airports and everything like this but i just the government just doesn't know how to get stuff done

SPEAKER_115: they should we fired everybody from the post offices the post office is a nightmare now i had to go

SPEAKER_256: there the other i mean the post office has always been a nightmare come on i mean no events to post office delivery people but that thing's got to go i don't think i've ever gotten more hate than

SPEAKER_21: my shut the post office down or change it but i said any in any major city here's what i want you to do i want you to make it ten dollars a year to get postal mail and then i want you to make

SPEAKER_96: it ten dollars a month to opt out of postal mail and have the mail uh sent to one of these scanning

SPEAKER_08: in companies literally i would pay a hundred dollars a year to not get postal mail to opt out of

SPEAKER_96: it and have it all scanned in for me yeah and they should literally double the price no they should 10x the price of people sending these goddamn catalogs it's ridiculous and if you made it once a week like if if you told me i could pay ten dollars a month instead of getting it every day to get it twice a month i would do it like if they scan it all in they just you know and take out all the flyers they should really professionalize and the only people who really need it are people who are in remote locations that ups amazon drivers like can't get to um and then you might have some price gouging whatever but there's nobody in a modern city who needs it so why don't you make it like if you come pick up your mail from the post office we'll we'll pay you ten dollars a month right you get a gift card or something there's something better to do here and then you could take all those post

SPEAKER_08: offices which are great real estate typically and use them for something else my pitch was to make them

SPEAKER_157: uh nursery schools and then let everybody have a nursery drop up if you we need more child care for sure

SPEAKER_21: if you just said to the average if you said to americans get your mail once a month for free twice a week for 10 bucks a month and we now have a universal nursery school you can go anytime you want and for 10 bucks an hour have you know but 10 bucks an hour um and maybe people under a certain dollar amount get i don't know five dollars an hour or 10 hours a month free uh and we'll just take all the post offices and make a child care and you just can drop off anytime and it's cameras in there it's

SPEAKER_264: the mail carriers or watch your kids we got a new they don't have to lose their jobs we flip them

SPEAKER_256: right into the new business and there aren't that many of them so you could literally give them a

SPEAKER_21: great ramp off point and you could say to amazon ups and everybody else hey we want you to hire these people and respect their pensions or whatever and you can basically bid to get those people over

SPEAKER_96: into your job so here we go and it's going to happen anyway folks like i mean the amazon same

SPEAKER_04: day delivery in austin is absurd oh my god it's crazy you i'm like no no too fast like sometimes i leave my house and like the thing i ordered uh it's already there like i haven't even i didn't even seem

SPEAKER_45: possible that it would be there yet like within an hour i don't know how they're doing no i don't

SPEAKER_21: it's literally like you order it and they're like okay how's four to eight pm and you're like ma'am it's 2 p.m yeah like i i'm not going to be home till then i literally will order something

SPEAKER_274: at the office yeah i don't even unbelievable yeah that is and then with the drones coming it's going

SPEAKER_21: to be nuts yeah i mean it's literally going to be like you and did you see this other feature speaking of ux and great features a lot of times now when i order something on amazon when i open the amazon app an hour later it's like um add to your existing order coming at this time and you click it and it's like double door dash or whether they're called double dash or whatever right and it's like oh um they're packing your stuff up and then it gives you a list of things that you could add to it that are i guess in that depot or that facility right that are close by it would be frustrating

SPEAKER_42: things that you can't get yeah they also i have an amazon fire tv now and it pops up a message on my

SPEAKER_02: tv when my package arrives that's crazy so if i'm watching tv it's like lon your shorts are here like that's

SPEAKER_282: wild that's the right and so you're buck watching whatever you're watching i'm not naked watching

SPEAKER_02: tv i don't know what's going on here my new pair of shorts arrived uh anyway you look good on the

SPEAKER_283: show but your wardrobe otherwise i mean i just we talked about this on the show before i'm i'm just i

SPEAKER_286: know what i'm getting you for your christmas bonus i'm sending you to a haberdasher all right

SPEAKER_04: another stop at suit supply for me speaking of uh speaking of great companies that we love that look

SPEAKER_02: great row.co we should talk about these guys if you've been a long time twist fan you've heard

SPEAKER_08: us talk about them jason let us know about road.co well uh as you know i was a fat bastard and uh people didn't mock me enough some people did uh some people took screenshots of me being fat and dunked on me uh like you're a fat greek and i'm like fair enough i am a fat greek and i used to be then i used to run marathons and then i would share pictures and people would be like well what happened and i said you know i really don't know it kind of got away from me every year i added two pounds and uh i don't know 20 years later from my 30s to my 50s i i was 213 pounds i heard cabin rose talk about ozempic when he's talking to my friend timmy's podcast oh tim ferris tim ferris's pockets yeah so i'm sorry i was drawing a blank i was like was he on lax or was on tim no he's on tim ferris they were doing their random show they do so anyway i get on the glp tray train and i never realized how much

SPEAKER_96: food noise i was thinking about food all the time i started taking glps i started losing a pound a week

SPEAKER_21: a half pound a week anyway here three four years later and uh i lost 40 pounds and i didn't talk

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SPEAKER_96: check it out folks see if it's for you at roe.co i love roe.co i love being svelte line you know how many problems went away my sciatica my back pain really shoulder pain all of it gone i went from skiing two or three hours a day uh during the ski season and uh all kinds of pain i would get off the mountain and i i needed to stretch i needed to hit the hot tub i mean i i'm i'm popping motrons like they're m&ms now i get off the ski mountain i have a little chili sour cream a little cheddar cheese you know what i do go back out on the mountain for another hour yeah i don't feel any pain my pain went away when the weight went away to the point of which now i hit a 35 pound weight vest and i

SPEAKER_110: hike around and i rock around my ranch roe.co anyway i'm very passionate about it yeah well

SPEAKER_32: i mean losing all that weight you're carrying all that extra weight around with you it is taxing on your

SPEAKER_04: body let's let's let's let's move on uh we got to talk about figure figure uh showed off their third generation robot the figure o3 uh the robotic company recently raised a billion dollars in new funding uh partially on the strength of this robot o3 has a completely redesigned sensory suite and hand system uh it it and it features better human robot interaction so show me an improved audio system

SPEAKER_301: let's see if i can find the i mean come on a video is worth a billion words do i have a figure this thing

SPEAKER_02: video there is a video of it i know there is a figure o3 video i just don't know if i have it here but i'm going to pull it up for us right now no problem and just so people know there was a while

SPEAKER_21: you get it ready here i'll just fill people in on the fact that um we've discussed this a couple of times they raised that billion at a 39 billion dollar valuation you do that you're going to get a lot of criticism why people are jealous and people get concerned about sky high valuations and the vcs felt like oh all these spvs and you know dentists and whatever direct uh investors are loading into this company at this crazy valuation they don't even have a customer yet

SPEAKER_00: there was a little controversy is bmw a customer or not looks like bmw is in fact using them in production they shared a video of that that was still a little controversial that video a lot of

SPEAKER_02: people are arguing on arm would have been better for that job than the whole robot or what's the

SPEAKER_04: robot really doing so there is still a lot of back and forth even after they okay there always is

SPEAKER_06: there always is with new technology but this thing looks great um it's uh stunning looking and of

SPEAKER_08: course the fixed robot's going to work better for tighter tasks but it will ultimately not have

SPEAKER_21: the flexibility of going around the world what i like about this new figure one is it has inductive charging at the feet somebody took a screenshot of the foot and um you know these things are probably a couple years away from being in your home doing productive stuff and they the world is made for you

SPEAKER_08: know the world we created as humans is made for the human form like our shelving and etc and what you're seeing here is this thing is um they show it here um you know bringing food out to the table washing dishes putting out water glasses it's the very classic robot butler i mean this is exactly

SPEAKER_04: what you think of if you had like a robot maid a robot butler it's cooking for them it's cleaning the house it's bringing them stuff it's playing with the dog here you know i i don't know i mean i i gotta be honest it's hard for me to imagine that everybody is going to have like a five foot tall humanoid faceless robot in their house like i i i absolutely will these things be in every factory will these things be on construction works like of course you don't have to sell me on that but i don't know it's hard for me to imagine going to a person's house and like the robot brings you a a a

SPEAKER_302: lovely snack maybe i'm wrong i don't know yeah you're right in the short term wrong in the midterm

SPEAKER_21: long term these things are going to you know just like it was crazy to think people would have a doorbell that rang your phone sure people thought it would be crazy to have lane assist or adaptive cruise control and then all of a sudden they have fsd i can tell you i've been having a pretty good experience with fsd um you know i'd say three out of four rides are flawless so we're on the cusp of

SPEAKER_08: something really interesting here the robots and the dexterity and everything that has existed for a while it's existed kind of for five or ten years we started seeing boston robotics doing backflips

SPEAKER_21: ten years ago what's happening here that's unique is the llm is interpreting the world and letting it know what to do so if you were to give it the command hey um tidy up the house it would be like okay tidy up the house what does that mean uh in the kit in the sense of the kitchen in the kitchen it

SPEAKER_08: means putting all the dishes in the dishwasher or washing them it's going to just like we saw chat gpt handle the spotify playlist each verticalization is going to be uh done you know like every six to 12 months and then you'll see the fluidity of how it works i've been driving autopilot and fsd for over a decade and i've watched it go from being absolutely flawless on the highway

SPEAKER_96: but kind of scary on the streets to being absolutely flawless 98 of the time i'd say 97 of the time

SPEAKER_08: something in that range and so you know here we are folks it's gonna work and i would love to just

SPEAKER_21: even have one of these just to do security patrols around the ranch i mean i would literally get one

SPEAKER_19: of these to just walk around the ranch and um you know put out bird seed and all that but one clear

SPEAKER_314: advancement that i think you can tell is the early days of these robots the the commentary was always

SPEAKER_04: like any individual thing you wanted to pick up or move you had to like teach it about that object in particular like how how to actually pick something up how heavy it's gonna be how to hold it so it doesn't fall and you can see that the ai that's working in this robot it it understands the difference between like a cabinet and a drawer it understands you have to lift a dish differently than you know like another kind of flat object or smaller object or here we can see it putting a tide pod into the washing machine which is like a fairly delicate sort of maneuver so i feel like we've definitely seen a lot of you know advancement there like it can figure out how to fold a towel

SPEAKER_317: as opposed to pick up a heavy object and move it which is without being trained on each specific object

SPEAKER_19: you know and um the way it does that is familiar objects it puts it into a queue for you so if you

SPEAKER_21: have any of the modern uh home security cameras there is this process of it will give you a queue of people's faces and say who is this and you say oh that's jason oh that's lon and then in the future when you get a notification it says lon's at the office right jason's at the back door lon's at the front door jason entered you know the parking lot and so you would be surprised at how fast this is if it was trying to figure out your house it could make a queue of every item it sees and it would say you know here's you know i don't know here's uh you know this um portable speaker and you say where does it belong and you say it belongs in the dresser uh you know in the side table

SPEAKER_08: in my master suite boom or my primary i can't say master suite anywhere in the primary yeah uh please don't cancel me it's gonna be i'm like an old dog i think you could still say master

SPEAKER_96: suite no people get that upset no no no no no in california i said it like multiple times looking at houses and i kid you not i got admonished twice like people are like you can't call it the master

SPEAKER_08: anymore because that is slavery and you have master slave right yes yes yeah it's just like okay i'm

SPEAKER_152: sorry it just that was not the intent here i was not doing a call back to uh yeah the civil war but anyway um it's gonna be pretty easy to train these things great show lon uh everybody will see you on

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