Jason Calacanis: all right hey everybody it is monday welcome back from your weekend which if it was anything like SPEAKER_01: mine lasted one nanosecond and it's already brutal weekend for me too uh just catching up SPEAKER_03: on sleep after being in four different cities in a week uh and then getting brigaded all weekend so my moderation on the all-in pod episode 95 i'm gonna start a reverse brigade i think SPEAKER_05: reverse brigade it's a plan our favorite startup bolt is back in the news this time for canceling SPEAKER_07: a 1.5 billion dollar deal to acquire crypto payments startup wire crypto payments still SPEAKER_03: not ready still all right and then roku is integrating tiktok style promotions into the platform we punch up their idea and talk about my favorite tiktok account chef's reactions SPEAKER_09: he's coming around just saying and then we have a couple we live in the future segments for you SPEAKER_05: one amazing one again maybe need some punch-ups a couple edits it's gonna be a great show stick with SPEAKER_15: us this week in startups is brought to you by better help provides access to easy affordable and private professional counseling anytime anywhere get 10 off your first month at betterhelp.com twist liquid iv making hydration a priority will help you feel better on a day-to-day basis get 15 off liquid iv by using promo code twist and open phone as a startup founder a lot of mistakes are easy to roll back but using your personal cell phone number as your company number isn't one of them open phone makes it easy to get business phone numbers for you and your team right on top of your existing devices visit openphone.com twist to get 20 off your first six SPEAKER_19: months hey everybody it's monday i have no tolerance for any bull today believe that out i got a bs in the SPEAKER_20: first five seconds molly how was your weekend please tell me it's better than monday no this weekend SPEAKER_21: stupid and this weekend barely didn't even happen because there was like a week's worth of chores all backed up because of the heat wave and then guess what happened on saturday morning power out is three SPEAKER_26: hours boom don't even get to california i was looking at houses i spent you know what i spent the SPEAKER_28: weekend doing my wife and i in bed ipad we weren't netflixing and chilling nope we're looking at redfin houses in austin that's what we're doing how to get out of this hell i was looking zillow maine SPEAKER_34: i'm all that's it perfect my pumpkin spice house is gonna happen i mean that would put the show at SPEAKER_28: 1 p.m for you i mean how great exactly like that's freaking delightful and then i if i'm in austin that's two are nick and rachel they are so happy right now they're like one hour closer to eastern time zone SPEAKER_36: two hours closer to eastern time zone let's go we get our dinners back dinner's back there it is SPEAKER_37: yep rachel's like oh here's the game here's she sent me the fall main look yes it's happening SPEAKER_05: he has just had it i love a good like i still i think i still like it here and i think i still want to stay but i just need my pumpkin spice house from labor day to thanksgiving i had just to ride out SPEAKER_45: the fall the worst season i just want to say i'm i have an apology is due i've told people before SPEAKER_46: pumpkin spice is garbage and i just this whole pumpkin spice latte thing too much for me blah SPEAKER_48: blah blah blah i've never been into pumpkin yeah i went to the cafe x at s-a-f-o and they had an iced SPEAKER_27: pumpkin chai which i'm a fan of yeah pumpkin chai is delicious you put a little pumpkin in a chai SPEAKER_50: that's delightful right there i mean just enough little cinnamy cinnamony it is delicious a pumpkin SPEAKER_51: spice latte is way too much it's too much like it's just like too sugary and gross you can ask it for like one pump but i just i don't do that anymore i hold out for that but i used to be such a big psl fan that starbucks actually sent me a box of fancy swag for the 10-year anniversary of SPEAKER_52: the psl like a collector like a really like a bedazzled uh yeah hashtag psl pumpkin spice SPEAKER_55: latte there's an acronym you literally accurate there's an acronym for you guys say pumpkin spice SPEAKER_58: latte so much you need to shorten it psl psl okay they sent me like a bedazzled like a what's the s SPEAKER_59: war off what is sdn i don't know psl sdn i don't know stop speaking millennial i don't speak millennial SPEAKER_09: oh okay season oh thank you for the show i'm not gonna lie because monday has started out train wreck train wreck monday puts it all back together we're gonna try to already feel better SPEAKER_28: this is my weekend brigaded big time uh i got i this is the worst brigading i've gotten in a long SPEAKER_70: time i think not since i made bloomberg my avatar have i been created this bad and the bloomberg thing SPEAKER_72: tweaked everybody because democrats were like how are you not for biden maggot people like how are SPEAKER_70: you for this guy jewish guy in new york was short and guys please can i can i pick a candidate is that so crazy can i live can i live a little i want to pick a billionaire and no tech leader for president SPEAKER_76: it's on brand how do how would i how would you expect me to pick anybody i would have seen SPEAKER_78: that coming i'm just saying yeah come on yeah that one you see coming a mile away so i had to SPEAKER_28: literally put my twitter on only people i follow because it's it's gotten crazy now and it's always the same group they're mega people like i i hit their likes this is like my my two-step process look at their profile okay was this created in the last 24 months look at their likes are they liking pepe the frog and like uh okay brandon okay great i know what i'm dealing with and so i just put them on my little list and i just you know take a little screenshot i put in my folder i'm like okay here's the maniacs just keeping track but i i mean i'm getting savage because apparently i spoke i SPEAKER_31: moderated too much last episode of all in and i am getting just it's a little crazy like i don't SPEAKER_55: want to say scary but it's it's tipping over into it like hey guys calm down get scary yeah like all SPEAKER_83: caps you're gonna punch me in the face like i get that you're saying like somebody needs to punch jacal SPEAKER_28: in the face is like uh you don't mean it literally but somebody might interpret it literally so just don't you can criticize me all you want with intelligent critique if you feel like hey you interrupted too much just put a time stamp on it hey you could have not interrupted at this moment SPEAKER_83: let the person speak i'm fine with that yeah but don't threaten to punch me in the face even if it's a joke it's not cool because like literally i i literally had a guy put me in a headlock at south by southwest one year like that was kind of scary the guy was a fan too it was just a SPEAKER_89: little he was drunk yeah but he's clearly drunk but literally i had a guy jump on me at um dignation in the vip room i know you told that story put me in a headlock here's the thing and Jason Calacanis: i'm like wrestling i'm mma fighting this is not about being even remotely rational and they're never going to this is literally about brigading it is a it is fundamentally and it it is like it is our SPEAKER_51: culture now and you see it in politics like this idea that like if you if if i don't share your opinion you should cease to exist like fully it's this sense of entitlement meanwhile nick is over here making pumpkin spice latte memes with me and rachel and jacal's head on him in maine we're going SPEAKER_96: show that in the house this is beautiful it's beautiful i love that beautiful state anyway it's SPEAKER_05: a fully terroristic society and it's fully enabled by twitter and this is why we have to go to maine SPEAKER_99: and get knee i just have to say your two headshots make it look like your sisters SPEAKER_89: or something it's actually kind of true it's like big sister little sister it is it looks like we're all siblings or maybe i'm dad i'd be the dad of this photo you guys i might be dad it looks like i'm dad SPEAKER_104: with my daughters like taking them to college i cannot wait for this i cannot wait i can't wait for SPEAKER_46: look at the boots the boots are the boots are perfect i'm going to create a reverse brigade SPEAKER_20: i want to have a reverse brigade because i have fans too everyone thinks it's a reverse brigade but it's still a brigade well where's my brigade i have an army i want my army to go into episode 95 SPEAKER_55: and i want you to just write what a delightful moderator i am but i want you to the code word is delightful delightful i want you to say delightful somewhere in there so we know that it's part of the brigade so just you know oh what a delightful episode and the moderation was so deft and delightful just put a little delightful in there for us and just go in there and counter the uh SPEAKER_28: the vitriol but i'm gonna get how do you you they think they do it in signal i'm told like signal and slack rooms or i'm sorry they organize it yeah so my understanding is like they're like attack this guy and they just put the thing because i can tell because it's like i'll have 10 tweets and then one of them all of a sudden gets 50 replies and i'm like wait a second why that one there's like three more that are a little more you know anti-trump than that one so that's like the strategy is like just go after this guy in this particular it's like a sniper shot right SPEAKER_05: maybe you've just made it i guess so this is actually just not unfortunately this is what this is what success and even a modicum of controversy uh brings in american culture today SPEAKER_51: because it's totally terroristic i had this conversation with like you know one of the commonwealth club folks ah and was and i don't remember what it was oh and i was like there are just hard truths that we're gonna have to say about climate you and i have had this conversation on the show right which is like hey guys we're not gonna solve racism before we address climate change and it can't be a blocker right it cannot be the reason like equity cannot be the reason that SPEAKER_119: we move forward on climate mitigation issues i appreciate you taking that stance and vocalizing it's SPEAKER_55: a deep it's it's a it's the completely right stance by the way obviously thank you obviously it's obviously the right stance however yep in our society today for you to say something like that SPEAKER_28: is to put yourself at peril for people to say well molly's a racist exactly why are you so racist mine SPEAKER_122: it's like did you not watch molly for the last 20 years sorry for the second one i'm sorry guys SPEAKER_124: it's the last 20 years fight for social justice yeah to the point of like you think she works at a SPEAKER_52: social justice all the time right and i'm just like oh i can knee-jerk molly's reaction i'm like SPEAKER_51: you know what i may be a bay area liberal but i grew up in a red state like believe me when you when i tell you you don't always know what you're gonna get here and this is one of those cases but so this guy was like i mean yeah but wow just like you're saying oh it's hard to say that right without getting yelled at and i was like yeah because we live in a completely terroristic society at SPEAKER_05: this point with respect to speech no matter what it is and i'm not a free speech absolutist either SPEAKER_52: but it's true that we are we're like curtailing our media the things that we say our politics who SPEAKER_05: runs for people will not run for office because it's just like considered a normal part of discourse to get a bunch of death threats for like the thing that you said and it's just like it's what social SPEAKER_51: media has wrought once we let gamer gate not be a big deal that was it then it was like great here's SPEAKER_129: the playbook let's go it really has been a playbook and it's like is it so controversial that like two SPEAKER_132: friends sax and i like sax has like a position that is like we should appease putin and like end this war and give him what he wants and we shouldn't like be as aggressive towards him and put nato SPEAKER_134: at his doorstep you know sax's kind of position is pretty clear on this he's kind of actually a dove SPEAKER_28: like which you'd think he would be more hawkish because most republicans are hawkish about putin and want to like start a war and he's dovish so it's like well how do you reconcile that position he's kind of dovish and then i'm like we should hold the line with putin and all dictators SPEAKER_55: the west should be a united front so i'm a hawk but people are upset at me for being hawkish SPEAKER_136: which is i think the republican position yeah they're just upset at you for disagreeing with SPEAKER_55: sax i think they're just upset that we disagree it's okay for the two of us to disagree because we agree on everything else like yeah it's okay and by the way in terms of strategy the purple pill strategy SPEAKER_28: is quite effective and the purple pill strategy works for both sides you just purple pill yourself on free speech you're like i'm not an absolutist but i am concerned about how we're shaping speech SPEAKER_51: right now with threats no i'm kind of concerned that we're allowing this that we just basically decided but i'm concerned that because of decades of you know or at least a solid decade of totally hands-off moderation like allow all the harassment you want that now that horse has left the barn like there's no putting that back in but we have to have a frank acknowledgement that that is now our standard discourse and political interaction is to basically try to shout someone out of existence and if we don't face up to that and be honest about it like on both so this guy is like so you think there's something to the right saying that you know people don't get and i was like come on SPEAKER_145: wow i'm like you yes dumb dumb and also the left like it's happening on both sides but are you really SPEAKER_131: going to sit here and pretend that like you don't know as a good bay area liberal that there's stuff you don't say because you don't want to get yelled at like give me a break yeah yeah i mean the idea SPEAKER_55: that anybody in san francisco would outwardly say i think if somebody breaks into your home we should SPEAKER_28: arrest them it's like so you hate poor people and it's like what right if the person was rich from robbing 10 houses and they broke into my house i would feel the same way like it has nothing to do with the person's net worth or you know a lot in life you just there's a societal idea that you SPEAKER_55: don't break into somebody's house and if you do there's a price to pay for it so you don't do it again yeah this is not racist this is not consequences matter accountability matters yeah it's like yeah it's the but this is what i'm trying to do on this podcast and the other one is just hey everybody can we have a conversation from first principles and listen to each other just listen to each other so for the people who are you know fans of either either end or pod maybe just understand like it's just a couple of different people's opinions and you can have an opinion too we can all state them and listen and work together towards evolving it and you can disagree without wanting us to go away Jason Calacanis: completely i mean you engage just i think on there was somebody in our twitter community who was SPEAKER_51: basically just like i want molly to go away i don't like the stuff she says right like that's just a standard i remember writing a letter about a commentator i didn't like to a news organization when i was like 23 years old and getting an extremely thoughtful response back that was like you know what like thank you for this feedback i really appreciate it we think it's really important to surface uh all these ideas and that you may not always agree but like you know it's not we don't think it's an option to not publish someone and i was like oh you're totally right okay and i SPEAKER_05: like never it worked and i never thought that way again and yet somehow that lesson has just eluded SPEAKER_51: american society right now because it's because it works we let it work it's like how the dog thinks when they bark at the mailman and the mailman leaves the dog is like i win yeah right no he's SPEAKER_159: six on to the next house you only get the mailman for 30 seconds a day buddy but that's what we think SPEAKER_51: like people on twitter are just like it works i got an apology i got the new i got a recut i got the zach snyder recut keep it going you know what i think i figured out a really unintended hack on SPEAKER_48: twitter which is i am now following 500 people a day um who like my tweets i just pull up the like on a tweet and i just follow everybody if they liked it they're probably a good person it's my thesis SPEAKER_28: then only people i follow can comment on my stuff and then i say to people if you quote retreat me i'll see it and if it's intelligent and thoughtful i will follow you back so now people are like oh if i want to get a jcal follow all i gotta do is say something intelligent and he follows me back and by the way what does that do it's actually a growth hack right because they're quote tweeting me to their followers totally and they're saying something intelligent about me because i've instructed them to do so yeah so now i've instructed people to say something SPEAKER_05: intelligent about something intelligent i've said so instead kiss my own move right so maybe instead of appeasing the dictators and terrorists on twitter by apologizing every time they yell at us or changing our behavior or whatever we can do positive provocations yes and find an off-ramp that's my off-ramp SPEAKER_28: i also think this i had another idea um if ever twitter changes management for some reason not that i SPEAKER_170: can talk about anything in that spectrum but if there was somebody else running me started on which SPEAKER_138: direction it's gonna go if that happens well anyway here no i think actually here's the idea SPEAKER_86: your first twitter account with your phone number and email is free your next twitter account you know if you use the same phone number um is a dollar oh then the third one is two dollars the fourth one is four dollars eight sixteen thirty two you just double what it costs for each subsequent account you've created maybe 10 accounts in your life i'm guessing different projects whatever two two i think like two you created two yeah okay if you had to pay a dollar for the second one but it got to SPEAKER_138: use the same phone number right and it was nice and easily organized and it was like for work because it would be it wouldn't just be to yell at people yeah so either a dollar to create or a dollar a year SPEAKER_86: or two dollars a year whatever so then there's no barrier for you to participate first first account always free but every subsequent account there's a an increasing dollar amount so people don't create there's a there's some friction to uh creating many accounts like right now when i get brigaded by the maga folks i can they're creating a hundred accounts it could be one person just with 10 100 windows open doing it you know and they just tab between them it's not easy to do folks uh but you know phone numbers have a cost it's hard to create another phone number i mean it's not SPEAKER_03: impossible but there is friction it's not impossible but there's some friction SPEAKER_175: what is the friction to have a second phone number is it five bucks not very much you could get a SPEAKER_86: google fly but you still have to pay for it you have to pay for it right so it's like five or ten bucks yeah that's a lot of friction a month like you're not going to create a hundred accounts and spend a thousand a month or five hundred a month on those phone numbers so yeah that's where it like i don't SPEAKER_184: know can you get burner phone numbers for free is that is that a thing on the internet i don't think SPEAKER_186: so you could do it as a free trial there's a there's a google fi has like a 30-day free trial so you could probably like go crazy on that it's still a lot of work but it's still a credit card yeah exactly SPEAKER_67: it's still i think the phone number solves the whole thing i think i mean friction is the key here for sure yeah friction love it let's get to the news all right let's talk some tech news SPEAKER_48: ton of crazy i feel better though thanks the startup grind can be overwhelming and a bunch of people in the startup world are 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acquire SPEAKER_51: a crypto payments company called wire w y r e a blockchain based crypto payments company for 1.5 billion dollars apparently they had agreed to do this back in april i feel like i sort of missed the fact that they were making a billion and a half dollar acquisition yeah but that's okay that i wasn't SPEAKER_20: paying attention to that because it's not happening they called it off because maybe they don't have a billion and a half dollars anymore well it could have been a stock deal you know if the company was SPEAKER_48: because they were valued at over 10 billion at some point so maybe they were going to give like maybe 50 million in cash and then 1.45 billion in um yeah yeah either way it's off the merger it would SPEAKER_108: have been the largest ever in the crypto space not including specs which are technically mergers right SPEAKER_134: this but that's like they're financial mergers they don't really count as mergers not two products coming together it's a right it's like bank account with money in it connected so this uh this has SPEAKER_51: come apart probably because the deal i love i love when axios goes full like dry humor the deal may SPEAKER_52: have been overpriced okay bolt of course uh was valued at 11 billion dollars by vcs after its last round of funding in january and then since then the growth stage and public tech valuations have been crushed SPEAKER_51: stripe and clarna just as sort of public facing comps have both seen valuation cuts stripe dropped their own value or valuation 28 percent clarna raised at a 30 percent valuation cut and the same month they're private companies to be clear it's just the ones they're the ones that we have some information on SPEAKER_48: they did that just so people know proactively proactively yep and the reason to do that we've talked about it before here on the program is you want to give stock to your employees if the stock is at a very high valuation they would be what's called underwater underwater means you SPEAKER_86: told them they can have an option to buy a share at ten dollars but the market is trading those shares at six or seven dollars so it's like well thanks you gave me a hundred dollar bill and i have to pay a hundred and thirty dollars for it that doesn't make any sense you just gave me something that loses me money so the optics become really hard for a company to tell somebody hey work for two or three years to get nothing your seventy dollar share will become worth a hundred in three years so that that was the reason they did it although the press sometimes doesn't understand you know that that's a SPEAKER_01: smart thing to do for your employees they just think it's like oh you know let's dunk on the company it's actually very savvy you want your employees to have low priced stock options the lower the better in fact in fact a lot of people take these 409 a's which is the private company valuation um designation it's called the 409 a the 409 a for the common is typically a little mini vc sunday school here for you it's typically valued at less than the preferred shares much less because they have to go second in the stack like we talked about with when we did our vc sunday SPEAKER_03: liquidation if you missed yesterday's show if you missed yesterday's show go check it out go check out sunday vc sunday so that's really the issue here is uh you know you're really trying to make SPEAKER_48: those even lower than the preferred share so if people are trading the shares for seven dollars you make the argument listen the common shares they probably will never see the light of day so they're really worth four so then your employees if you do ipo get the gain between four and if the ipo price was 20 they get a 16 per share gain and employees are increasingly becoming savvy on it the SPEAKER_134: employees who are not savvy on it first time startup employees right people who are savvy on it second SPEAKER_02: third time so if you were at uber google yeah because the last thing yeah the last thing you want is a Jason Calacanis: high strike price so and it's possible and it's interesting because the nodies are kind of suggesting there's one notice suggesting it wasn't so much the valuation it was maybe about closing conditions SPEAKER_51: that wire couldn't meet you know we don't we don't know the the the like pretty easy and obvious narrative here is everything has dropped in terms of valuation and uh and bolt i think did have some layoffs and things like that and so it's very possible that everybody was like this deal is too rich and we uh can do better separately or it fell apart for some arcane business reason that we don't necessarily know but we do know that at the time that this was announced uh brezlow's tweet thread was like this will be the everything it will supercharge shoppers businesses developers it'll make like every bolt retailer and shopper will be able to use cryptocurrency easy easily and seamlessly tens of millions of bolt users will be able to buy real stuff with crypto like really was uh positioning this as as a way to mainstream crypto purchases nobody wants to buy with crypto in a way we still can see here's SPEAKER_55: the thing yeah crypto uh everybody who participated in crypto bought tokens nfts ico future tokens why SPEAKER_192: did they buy those no why did they buy these things they bought them as an investment the end the end SPEAKER_55: so if you bought them as an investment if you go to j trading and i bought shares in disney SPEAKER_236: i didn't buy the shares in disney to go buy a a pumpkin spice latte a psl i wasn't psl-ing i don't want to take my disney and psl it especially not after i saw the uh tales of the jedi trailer this weekend SPEAKER_28: it's gonna be great especially not if i saw the little mermaid trailer great i'm gonna buy more disney SPEAKER_27: because of that little mermaid trailer mm-hmm inclusivity representation you know what that SPEAKER_86: means that means dollars you know what i saw when i saw that lers i didn't see black white i saw green yep you're opening up the aperture so more people can be involved in the disney family SPEAKER_09: that's that's more money people that's a bye bye bye jim kramer bye bye bye bye bye did you see the story i know this is not in our lineup but did you see the story today about bob chappick chappick saying that espn the reason to keep espn in the disney portfolio is betting and that they're working SPEAKER_246: on a sports betting app let's go i mean sorry cursed again i'm so sorry it's genius in the bye bye SPEAKER_242: bye department but i was like oh that's very family i'm going to disney and i listen i'm going to disney SPEAKER_83: and i'm going to bet three to one odds that mini is going to lead the parade down main street that's what you're going to go to disney they're going to be like hey how much do you bet SPEAKER_132: that's amazing how much do you bet that kylo ren is going to lead the star wars brigade SPEAKER_112: versus is he going to be the dark that's what you're going to you're going to go to the parade SPEAKER_86: and you're going to bet dark side droids or jedi are going to lead the parade and then the parade's SPEAKER_252: going to start and you're going to be like goddamn droids again you got to get your bets in you got SPEAKER_87: to get your bets in there's literally a window you're going to see like five-year-old kids ripping SPEAKER_255: off their tickets god damn it droids amazing smoking cigarettes just throwing them down god damn it SPEAKER_257: it's her disney into what's the otp a bunch of old guys smoke retirees smoking cigarettes oh drinking schlitz and they're gonna be like god damn it drinking c3pl again amazing god damn it SPEAKER_55: 40 to 1 odds that it was going to be r2d2 i will bet on disney oh my lord i'm gonna bet one stinger two stinger on disney at disney uh listen you're gonna go to the movies and you're gonna be like you know what i'm betting in doctor strange there's going to be two stingers versus one that's the big gamble every time i go to these movies my kids run up to me three daughters they jump on me one stinger or two stingers one stinger to see look it up dad and i have to look it up SPEAKER_138: there's websites now oh you mean the post-credit scenes post-credit scenes are called yeah totally so SPEAKER_86: they're like pcs pcs post-credit scenes you know what i'm saying so i'm having a psl they want to know if there's a pcs or two pcs i'm like everybody calm down dad's gonna look it up so we went to see spider-man again this weekend they re-released it my kids love that spider-man with the three SPEAKER_268: spider-mans in it spoiler alert so much we went to see it again it's better the second time that was a good SPEAKER_270: good um i was like you know i just like toby toby's my guy i watched thor on uh disney plus this weekend oh did it come out that's love and thunder 11 thunder it's out already which i SPEAKER_186: appreciate yeah i don't think those windows should be short short window i'm fine with short windows SPEAKER_03: when i'm in tahoe and i have the theater but when i'm home i don't have a theater long window SPEAKER_193: okay listen you heard molly and i talking about this crazy bay area heat wave maybe you're in france china austin florida socal and you're experiencing this insanity well thankfully we have liquid iv to keep you hydrated it's delicious it is great for your body and it is so affordable and you don't have to waste plastic bottles i love everything about liquid iv i pounded six liquid ivs this weekend two or three a day you know i've been doing the treadmill i've been out there i'm trying to live that active lifestyle and uh if you've got a crazy schedule this is a great thing for you to do in the morning uh i've been doing liquid iv in the morning just keep my hydration game tight liquid iv will hydrate you two times faster 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SPEAKER_52: streaming let's keep going roku has announced asa everybody is just trying to be tick tock out here SPEAKER_05: even roku which has announced a software update for its streaming devices and says it will include a feature offering short form tick tock style promotional content from entertainment partners the feature will be called the buzz which i take exception to because the daily buzz was in fact my SPEAKER_51: cnet.com front page segment that led to the podcast buzz out loud and the video show the buzz report but okay you do you roku good idea and it will let users discover content in a new way posts in the buzz can be video clips images trailers interviews and other content okay but they're going to be in what do we SPEAKER_48: call portrait mode i don't know the dimensions of portrait mode on your phone it must have a dimension it's not 16 by 9 it's not 4 by 3 it's 9 by 16 okay 9 by 16 so 9 by 16 on your tv is going to look really whack so what how do they do that they just have a little thin strip on your tv here's my idea for the SPEAKER_28: interface you put the 9 by 16 in the middle and to the left of it is the one you just saw you and then to the right of it are like the next three to come so they like are pre-loading and you can see what the next three recommendations are so somebody make that for me a you know five five across 9 by 16 of it i would i would check that out actually i think that'd be pretty cool because SPEAKER_20: you know sometimes watching tick tocks together is kind of fun but i don't they're not going to Jason Calacanis: actually put tick tocks though well what they're saying is they're going to allow partners to embed content so that when you go to the roku home page yes things will start streaming tick tock style and they'll be like promotional or like this is the buzz or whatever so when i'm in my maximum SPEAKER_136: efficiency mode and i'm just there and i'm like trying to get to hbo max a bunch of stuff is going SPEAKER_273: to start playing i only watch one tick tock and i'm going to be annoyed i have one tick tock time and i'm having a meeting with this uh individual uh next week or maybe this it's called chef's reaction we SPEAKER_27: don't watch chef's reaction this is the greatest account on tick tock oh well i already know i'm not SPEAKER_292: sponge worthy so let's see how much i hate myself by the end of this video yeah like this guy is an SPEAKER_295: artist a genuine artist a master i said it before an evil genius like look how many steps are involved just to make this one dessert yet some is going to complain when it costs like 12.99 ooh passion fruit not a huge fan of passion fruit it's a texture thing for me the flavor is fine but just the texture i just i don't know i don't like it in this i would i would eat it though so what SPEAKER_55: he does is they just anytime you see a cooking video uh on tick tock you just put at chef's SPEAKER_46: reactions and then he watches them and he's a chef i won't dox him but um and uh he's the most SPEAKER_236: he's making a living as a chef and then he started reacting so he's not got a million people SPEAKER_28: i was like this guy's so brilliant that there's a business in here i don't know what the business is he's doing merch i bought a hat so everybody go by if you hear my voice go to chef's reaction SPEAKER_48: just buy a hat or a t-shirt or something but i think this guy's brilliant because what he'll do when he reacts to these things molly is he will say oh you're cutting your chicken on a wood board okay SPEAKER_86: now you're cutting your onions on the same board and he's giving he's criticizing as he is uniquely qualified to do as a chef the technique or praising and then he gives a score and he's like six out of SPEAKER_01: ten i would eat it but i hate myself for eating it or he's like 10 out of 10 you know i'll never be that person but you know this is obviously incredible and you just get a sense of what good food is and SPEAKER_86: what good technique is it's almost like going to it's almost like being in the kitchen with like 10 SPEAKER_03: chefs and anthony bourdain's there with you know whoever and uh martha stewart and they're just SPEAKER_302: watching other chefs cook and critiquing them i like how he's like i mean this is a time-honored Jason Calacanis: youtube construct by the way the like video critique of another video and it's sort of the most genius way to make money and get views what's great about this guy is that he is in fact such an SPEAKER_05: expert like a lot of times it's just i mean to be fair when youtubers critique other youtubers that's they are an expert at that craft right and so that's it's but this is like i always i think that this particular art form creator art form is so fascinating because you don't actually really even have to do that much work you just go find stuff and i mean it's literally like it's the evolution of the art critic or the theater critic it's just like oh this one is he always responds to SPEAKER_48: that pastry chef who makes unbelievable pastries for events yeah so like he will make he made a robotic SPEAKER_86: arm for a robot company and he literally made the hinges and made the robotic arm out of chocolate SPEAKER_307: you can move the arm around like it's crazy but what's better it was when chef reactions roast somebody SPEAKER_313: chill my guy like is it worth saving 10 15 minutes of time to make this i bet it doesn't taste good textural nightmare even sound zero zero that was like a quick one but sometimes he roast people he SPEAKER_55: just goes in it's pretty awesome but this is what roko should do roko should go to a guy like him SPEAKER_28: yeah and say we just pick 20 of these great tick tockers and say we'll give you a thousand dollars a month so that's twenty thousand a month 250k a year it's not a lot but we'll give you a thousand dollars a SPEAKER_86: month if we can feature your stuff here without the tick tock logo just part of the plan with our roku logo a thousand dollars a month each 20 of you and so then when you go there you put the best SPEAKER_03: of tick tock in between the clips of the other partners right uh yeah but do we really do those SPEAKER_86: tick tockers would appreciate the money yeah and you'd have people would open their people become addicted to open their tick tock by opening their roku because there would be good stuff to watch SPEAKER_05: yeah exactly if it all feels like ads if it all feels like oh stars like a stars preview that's annoying but if it is like great content and you can watch this kind of interstitial while you think SPEAKER_51: about what you want to watch or just only watch that and then get tired and go to bed which is what i'm doing on my phone anyway and that hurts my neck so like let me have it on my big tv now you're SPEAKER_48: going to associate opening your roku with laughing yeah totally being entertained so this is the way i would do it i would play five pure content tick tocks for every one amc walking dead preview or you SPEAKER_193: know bet or hallmark movie nonsense right because those are going to be really terrible yeah we need SPEAKER_328: to get chef's reaction on the british baking shows that would be pretty great that would be hysterical SPEAKER_332: yeah that's what roku should do roku should roku should pay him to make original content yes oh my god nick you're a genius you're a programming genius they should do a crossover here are shows on roku SPEAKER_28: about cooking and here's chef reacting to them click here to watch that episode oh my god nick SPEAKER_335: you're programming well imagine if roku just said like hey we have like if netflix is like okay we want to promote best british baking show and then roku is like okay we have these six tick tock food SPEAKER_337: creators on retainer that do reaction videos here's the metrics from each of them which one do you want to choose to react to these things and then they could do different ad campaigns based on who they have SPEAKER_01: available that's and the worst it is and the more they roast them the better the click through is going to be to watch the episode probably so you just let them go ham all right everybody on the SPEAKER_285: phone today is open phones founder darina kuya welcome to the program darina thanks jason great to be here now what mistakes do most founders make with phone numbers in their startups great question first SPEAKER_342: one is they use their personal phone number for their business and it's an easy mistake to make SPEAKER_344: because you don't necessarily think about it much you know you incorporate your company you put your phone number there's all these forms you fill out it very quickly goes from being your personal number to being the number for the company and when that happens there are all these data aggregators and all kinds of services that take your number and put it everywhere yeah suddenly now there is this uptick in spam text messages it's the worst yeah and people just wonder like how are others getting my number well let me tell you you put it in different places and it kind of snowballed from there so that's the first mistake yeah the second which is initially as a founder you're the sales person you're the only sales sales rep and then you hire a first sales rep and sometimes founders let that person use their personal phone number oh no that number the data everything that happens is just fully belongs to the sales rep and if that person leaves you lose the entire history with your SPEAKER_285: customers yeah and then what if that sales executive goes to a competitor exactly yep okay everybody twist listeners can get 20 off any plan for their first six months at open phone just go to open phone dot com slash twist if you've got an existing number they'll put it right over for free head to SPEAKER_193: o-p-e-n-p-h-o-n-e dot com slash twist today for 20 off we do live in the future molly we do we live in SPEAKER_48: the future uh and we now have random chefs in between service becoming having a million followers SPEAKER_01: like literally random chef from around the world is now reacting and has the got a million followers yeah and is becoming a brand this is literally the future right that we all wanted is like talent rising to the top but there's other we live in the future items and monday we always like to do something positive every monday we're going to do we live in the future so if you have we live in the future moments of course email producers at this weekend startups.com what's on deck today molly Jason Calacanis: this has been i think in the works for a while we live in the future in tractor land later this year SPEAKER_05: so you know like autonomous driving in terms of cars tiny bit of a stall but john deere is straight up stone cold rolling out self-driving tractors this year that can plow fields by themselves and SPEAKER_09: sprayers that can distinguish i want to see this weeds from crops what love it can tell the difference SPEAKER_51: computer efficient easy come on why have we not invested in them love it well actually i did meet with a company that can that could autonomously weed that's true those are the robot that smokes SPEAKER_363: wheat you're saying we definitely live in the future now imagine if there's like a robot that automatically SPEAKER_281: smoke weed no this makes sense because um if you think about computer vision i i showed on all in the SPEAKER_48: other week um root ai which was a company we invested in that then got bought by an app harvest another company that's doing vertical farming but they were doing computer vision and it was one of the guys had figured out how to do arms at mit i believe it was that were so sensitive that they could pick a SPEAKER_55: cherry tomato now a computer has better vision than a human and you could have multiple cameras SPEAKER_48: looking at a cherry tomato uh plant and it's very quickly like a thousand times faster and more accurately than a human going to be able to go beep beep beep beep beep these ones are ready to be picked and the arm is going to be able to navigate and pick those cherry tomatoes and leave the ones that need another day to ripen and it can just go down up and down now with this that tractor has um that big long arm behind it that's spraying pesticide now i wonder if what it's doing is let's say there are 100 spigots on it i'm just making a number up here maybe 50 is more reasonable 50 spigots and they're SPEAKER_86: numbered one through 50 but there's a camera on the front aligned with those 50 spigots now it knows SPEAKER_03: hey listen there's a breakout over here of uh weeds we don't need to spray the whole field with pesticides SPEAKER_86: we can just do that area so turn it on and off i wonder if that's what it's doing i mean it's like Jason Calacanis: sound computer vision what they're describing yeah and if that is if that's the case that would be phenomenal because we do i've talked to a couple of ag tech companies who have explained to me that we SPEAKER_51: way overuse of course pesticide because nobody because farmers don't know and it's really hard to pinpoint like there's one company that is developing seeds that have biomarkers in them so that if they start to get a mold or a pest infestation they glow like an infrared color that you can see from satellites so you can see it from overhead like oh there's this glow glowing yellow blob crazy so you need to you know target spray there stop the infestation so you don't have to just spray and pray and hope for the best and and you poison people and also you just use too much pesticide which uses like all these you know chemicals that are uh all contributors to climate change so the idea that you could be doing this as you are tractoring like all day every day in SPEAKER_270: agriculture is huge it would be massively impactful which is a great idea this is also happening with SPEAKER_48: the use of fertilizer and taking soil samples so you know you look at all the soil and you're like where should we put the fertilizer and they're like okay we took a sample we're gonna lay it down okay well what if you took a hundred samples and you said we're gonna make custom soil and you know these 10 need this type of custom fertilizer these 50 need another version and the other 40 need nothing now yeah pattern ag pattern ag is a company we invested in um with freeberg uh it's one of freeberg's SPEAKER_209: climate corp companies and the syndicate dot com invested in it wasn't a climate syndicate one although could arguably fall into that um but anyway we'll talk about that in the future because SPEAKER_382: we do sometimes to get some of those from there and then they would be great for that SPEAKER_51: um yeah but pattern ag it's like a lab and data provider for doing soil analysis and like sort of trying to deeply and analyze the it's it's all about at the end of the day regenerative agriculture SPEAKER_176: and being able to like use soil more efficiently super interesting pretty cool home page uh pattern SPEAKER_48: dot ag i guess the ag domain is out now i didn't know we had an ag domain happening here but yeah SPEAKER_209: pull up the screen so just give them a little shout out since they have a good looking website whenever our portfolio companies have a beautiful website with a looped video we should totally show the page because it looks good during the show but shout out to pattern ag doing that here's SPEAKER_194: pattern ag's home your soil is talking it's time to listen pattern ag offers the most advanced soil analysis to optimize your crop protection and for uh fertility plans so they do two things molly if SPEAKER_23: you're looking to have babies they also are doing that so they've got a fertility clinic for humans SPEAKER_138: and they're oh no wait that's for fertility for plants not humans somebody's dad is in here did i SPEAKER_55: make you like right did i get a laugh that's it i just that's why i come every day i just come here to see if i can get you to chuckle i just make nothing i'm like a 12 year old boy it started into SPEAKER_219: it started as a disgusted snort and turned into actual hysterics i'm like i'm still the same 12 SPEAKER_89: to 15 year old boy this is what i was able to make girls laugh in high school god bless america breezy point i can make a girl laugh it was like wow this is amazing i can get attention from girls by telling a SPEAKER_55: joke let's do it and thus the career and done and done it literally is for guys out there who are short SPEAKER_48: fat bald my god otherwise not able to score with chicks i highly recommend just try to be funny notice are like red flag is it a red flag right here kind of feel like i'm like a good uncle explaining to you how to be a normal guy i feel like this is good advice like stop playing video games take a girl on a date make people laugh make them laugh make them feel special maybe sorry SPEAKER_05: sorry if i'm old school and dad jokes work dad jokes my daughters now we have another we actually have this is what kind of monday it is we have a double whammy we live in the future we do it's just by the SPEAKER_48: way and i also try to make my daughters laugh so that this the dad joke i've been doing for now 10 years for them they request it so the bill comes at the restaurant i ask for the check i open the bill this is me opening the bill let's pretend this is like the sleeve the bill comes in SPEAKER_410: got it uh huh yeah and then i look at it and i go oh my god 14 for bread who ordered a fourth bottle of pellegrino 18 worth of pellegrino you couldn't just have the tap water SPEAKER_48: and i just do this and sometimes if i really want to do it next level i do it until the waiter comes over and notices and they're like sir is there something wrong and i'm like SPEAKER_303: do you guys charge for bread he's like we don't charge for bread sir and i'm like oh okay i just read the bill i'm just joking i just love it do you send him back in the kitchen like you guys are SPEAKER_141: gonna have to work i'm sorry i didn't bring enough money for this it's a great area it's a classic SPEAKER_55: it's a classic like if you want to make people laugh i suggest you do this but don't tell them you're going to do it just go ahead and do it at your next dinner and report back to me and maybe SPEAKER_28: take a video and make a tick tock out of it it's a classic dad joke if you have classic dad jokes i'm i love to hear classic dad gags and jokes but you should just take that and do it you know and then SPEAKER_67: just but you have to lean into this joke i know you got to be able to sell it i can't make people uncomfortable you have to be willing to make people uncomfortable it's sort of like who is that David Friedberg: comedian who died um recently who used to do snls oh yeah norm norm mcdonald i've been watching some SPEAKER_01: you know you get down the rabbit hole on youtube and i i just clicked on a couple norm mcdonald's SPEAKER_86: when he died and i get them once in a while he makes people so uncomfortable yeah and the last five years he knew he was dying and he leaned into like i'm gonna make people really uncomfortable SPEAKER_422: and man it is super uncomfortable it's comedy it's we we've been watching uh impractical jokers SPEAKER_09: which nick and i discussed it's wait is impractical jokers the um puppets no it's like four dumb dumb friends who go out and challenge each other to make people uncomfortable in public like that's always SPEAKER_05: dangerous it's you you would think i am shot what you discover watching this show is how much people will put up with in public it's phenomenal so it'll and it's a you know it's like you gotta say SPEAKER_51: whatever like it'll have two guys in a back room and two guys in a shoe store pretending to be the the you know workers at the shoe store and it's like you have to say whatever we feed you through SPEAKER_09: your earpiece no matter what it is oh no oh yeah it's so you're doomed you're gonna watch it there's nine seasons of this and it did become a genre it'll be like you gotta go take food off of people's SPEAKER_67: plate at a buffet just take and they go and they just like pluck food off people's plate people are like god be careful man like from where i'm from like that stuff don't fly you would think turns out Jason Calacanis: people are very docile let's talk about our other uh we live in the future that may or may not be SPEAKER_51: we're doubling down on we live in the future because we're so excited to either visit this or watch it all unravel as a giant scam a canadian architectural company is pitching a moon themed resort to middle eastern and north african countries the architectural company called SPEAKER_05: moon world resorts inc or mwr is pitching the idea of a five billion dollar resort that literally looks SPEAKER_138: like the moon wait a second it's just a big old moon you're saying they're putting a resort on the moon no no no they're building they're gonna build a version of the moon i see i see it i'm looking SPEAKER_51: at the picture now it's like the eiffel tower in vegas except it's the moon and it would be dubai scale so like super gigantic it is expected to have an overall height of 735 feet now for reference SPEAKER_05: the salesforce tower is 1070 feet so a little you know shorter than that SPEAKER_439: but this thing's like wait this is like 80 stories high or something you're telling me yeah SPEAKER_219: is it hollow or is there apparently 80 stories wide too is it empty it's hotel rooms so you live inside the SPEAKER_423: moon you live in the moon but the outside of it is designed to look and lighted like the moon in terms of the craters and everything yeah exactly wow okay so but then you have a win do you have windows SPEAKER_67: i guess they're one-sided windows so you can look out i guess they're probably disguised windows or SPEAKER_51: maybe they're going for the full like moon experience and you live in like you're like in little burrows you know and you're pretending you have artificial air i mean you can really like do it up and make it like a SPEAKER_03: moon colony i say just make it hollow and then have it be like a giant hollow experience inside that you can walk around like a spiral staircase and put cafes in it but i don't want to be in a hotel you're not SPEAKER_219: gonna make enough money that way you need it you need sky villas with private residences inside the superstructures disc buildings what can i do on the outside of the structure am i going to be able to SPEAKER_138: rappel down it that would be amazing if you could do like a moonwalk on the outside that's what i'm David Friedberg: saying they should give you boots that are magnetic and you should be able to walk around the surface of the moon that's amazing fun there is a up the idea mock-up from the company's website showing uh Jason Calacanis: this big old moon the idea is that they say they'll build this in 48 months and attract SPEAKER_05: two and a half million space enthusiasts every year to experience quote affordable space tourism SPEAKER_28: no that's dumb that's not what you're doing what you're doing is you're creating an instagramable SPEAKER_48: moment where a bunch of instagram people can take a picture in front of this and say look i'm on the moon or if they could walk on the top of it then you could get like a serious camera of like i'm walking on the moon in a moon suit you're creating an instagramable moment this has nothing to do with SPEAKER_51: going to space kind of like this is like the least built out website i've ever seen too so this is one SPEAKER_136: of those where we live in the future but the future might just be like a huge money laundering SPEAKER_51: operation this is a lame but i love i mean i'm kind of obsessed with dubai in this way how they just like build whatever right it's like how vegas used to just build whatever like yeah we built this huge sure you know the luxor and you can see it from space and whatever and done it out and so they're SPEAKER_05: like we're just gonna build a moon in dubai honestly that wouldn't shock me i just yeah i mean i SPEAKER_457: like it aesthetically i guess yeah i don't like the way they're selling it i don't know um i guess they SPEAKER_48: didn't want to do the sun and just have everybody be incinerated into a fiery ball SPEAKER_19: like come stay at the sun we'll just it's really hot inside you can do victory yoga once you have SPEAKER_145: the moon you could start doing other planets all around the world though which would be kind of cool because then you if you got all the planets and the moon and then a little jupiter SPEAKER_05: and then our little baby uh a little baby pluto and you could like you could spend a year staying in all of them it would become like a tour this is we live in the galaxy this is the world this SPEAKER_48: is we live in the past this is epcot center this is uh the world's fair which i wish we had a world's fair again but this is fair this is living in the past what i think we should have a much more SPEAKER_466: interesting idea is to put a hotel on the moon that's going to be dope yes but i also by the way SPEAKER_09: i'm going to the moon right exactly i'm like you're going to the moon i mean they do they do make the the good point that 12 people 12 people have been to the moon we can't even get you know i'm going SPEAKER_425: when i'm 60 currently so when i'm 60. well that sounds great for you i will be in dubai i will be SPEAKER_363: in the dubai version i think it's going to be we'll have regular trips to the moon for civilians SPEAKER_471: in 10 years yep you're not going to have a luxury hotel you can do a bet let's do a long bet SPEAKER_55: long bet right now great i'm going to set the over under that tourists can land on the moon that that's it a tourist somebody who pays can put their feet on the moon i'm going to set the over under SPEAKER_474: at 2032 that a tourist a paid passenger not an astronaut puts their feet on the moon do you take SPEAKER_48: the over or the under mode i think i'm setting a great line here nick and nick and rachel you're in on this too for a hundi it's a hundi each yeah but you just took the under no no i set the line SPEAKER_477: i might take the action on either side i just want to get everybody's over unders and see if i set a SPEAKER_479: good line literally land on the moon i'm gonna go over you're gonna say over okay nick you got over SPEAKER_482: under 2032 are you just are you just landing you're landing and you're like you're not doing anything SPEAKER_483: your feet are touching and then you fly back that's it well you have to make it a very specific SPEAKER_482: 69. get out the neil armstrong you're landed on the moon you just bop out it could be that your feet SPEAKER_236: actually touch the surface or you're in a moon base or your capsule lands on the moon any of those SPEAKER_487: counts isn't this kind of like we live in the past we did this 50 years ago i know we haven't SPEAKER_09: done it since so 1969 we can't even get artemis off the off the launch pad right now that might have SPEAKER_86: been also cg and the cooper yeah even though cgi didn't exist that might have been cgi can you SPEAKER_493: imagine you're like such a maniac that you believe that the moon or landing was i mean i will say i'm SPEAKER_51: feeling like kind of a maniac right now and nick points out we did this 60 years ago and i still SPEAKER_03: i'm like i'm taking the over like that is we're clearly capable of doing it it's just a matter of SPEAKER_83: exactly we we have the ability that's been proven do we have the will to do it because let's face it not much happened last time although there there is a new rub i don't know if you saw that other story that Jason Calacanis: came out this weekend yes i did i'm super into the story the china one about how they did they discovered a new mineral there was a story that said that china is really ramping up its uh moon SPEAKER_51: operations because they have discovered this new they not not only they it was like they became the third country to discover this new mineral that could potentially be used as a future energy source SPEAKER_136: it's like a type of hydrogen i think hold on let me look at it up yeah it's called like some hydrogen SPEAKER_48: three or something so it was an insider so who knows you know they tend to rewrite stories from like some other news insider i'd say it was first reported by bloomberg yeah nine oh was it okay because a lot of times they'll just insider's game is to take a story behind a paywall and rewrite it in bullet points right so i don't know the origin of this right sometimes it's like a chinese news site so i think they have some chinese folks but in this case evidently it was in fact it was in bloomberg okay SPEAKER_51: so it's called helium three it's called helium or it contains helium three contains helium three um the samples were retrieved by china's chang e5 mission and they call this mineral chang site it's a colorless transparent columnar crystal said to contain helium three an isotope that's been SPEAKER_136: speculated as a future energy source and so china's space agency is gonna i think they're trying to do David Friedberg: three moon missions this is what they want to get they want to get this element you knew this was SPEAKER_281: going to happen oh yeah because what are the chances that every element in the world is pre in the SPEAKER_28: universe is on our planet right that would seem unlikely there must be things out there that are SPEAKER_479: not part of our planet right they're like planets where it rains diamonds and stuff i mean yeah there's SPEAKER_13: tons of stuff out there that's not there must be things if it's part of our planet it's in teeny SPEAKER_281: teeny teeny teeny tiny quantities that's another possibility right yeah so there must be minerals elements whatever that exist on other things so the question is why are they not on our planet because SPEAKER_194: our planet is only one small subset of elements in the universe and then what happens when we bring SPEAKER_423: it to our planet and introduce it because that also seems fraught with possibilities like maybe SPEAKER_51: there's things that it's all we're on stuff that's scary helium three is not new but apparently this SPEAKER_03: mineral is somewhat new yeah great well i mean this is what they've been saying well i mean i i think this is like the beginning of like at least two dozen horror films is that some element or and or goo you know is found and then somebody decides to touch it and take their mask off right which always seems SPEAKER_425: like really you're that guy you gotta touch it is when i checked out of that movie that SPEAKER_285: prometheus yes when the guy's like oh look at this cute little i don't know it looks kind of like a SPEAKER_09: viper like a snake but with bigger teeth oh let me just go say hi to it it's like and then the second one where they detour to a planet that's not on their agenda and then land on that planet and promptly take their helmets off like i was like nope that's always my favorite they're like i'm done oh SPEAKER_83: look oxygen readings let's take our let's take our protective gear off and i'm like really really SPEAKER_86: really of course nothing to keep it on they're like yeah but aesthetically this movie's gonna suck if we're all in helmets and you have to hear us through like a space microphone so for the sake of the SPEAKER_83: audience we're taking our helmets right even though we're we're scientists and we definitely SPEAKER_51: do know about things like microbes and bacteria and viruses but we would just pop them off no SPEAKER_03: problem we're taking them off i mean it i mean do you want to watch a whole movie where they have SPEAKER_519: their you know head things on it's kind of exactly it's no good no good all right listen this has been SPEAKER_192: monday we got through it together we did it we got a big deal better i feel better i'm ready for the SPEAKER_05: week now i can do it all right enough fun for today but we have more don't worry there is much more fun coming up we've got a whole packed week as always the final segment of the blueprint another crypto SPEAKER_219: roundtable it's merge week the eth merge is happening it is officially kicked off so sunny SPEAKER_48: and vinnie are back from the playa they both were at burning man i did not SPEAKER_03: hang with them in their crypto yurt but we will get a report on the crypto yurt life in there was some crypto stuff going down on the playa i'm sure they were both there though i saw from their social and not even wait crypto was burning man like that certain those two circles overlapping SPEAKER_425: it's just great we do live in the future yes yes we do