SPEAKER_00: I could see this being the game changer of all game changers and this makes me think Google searches franchise is in good hands. I think you know this is going to increase revenue. SPEAKER_05: Does it make the JTrade list? 100% I think Google is going to be number one at language models. I SPEAKER_06: am convinced that Google beats Microsoft slash OpenAI. This Week in Startups is brought to you SPEAKER_07: by LinkedIn Marketing. To redeem a free $100 LinkedIn ad credit and launch your first campaign, go to LinkedIn.com slash This Week in Startups. Squarespace. Turn your idea into a new website. Go to squarespace.com slash twist for a free trial. When you're ready to launch, use offer code twist to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. And Roots. Invest in the only real estate investment trust that creates wealth for you and its residents at invest with roots.com SPEAKER_10: slash twist. All right, everybody, welcome to Monday. And if it's Monday, Sonny Madra. Money SPEAKER_00: Madra is here. And he is back to do AI demos. We have a bunch of rapid fire news stories because everybody is releasing new products at the same time. Here we are at the end of year one of this AI renaissance that started in q four of 2022. And OpenAI has launched Dolly three, we're going to go over that Microsoft has officially announced its AI sidekick called very creatively copilot. And then YouTube is going all in on generative AI. And finally, Google just announced barred extensions. And we're SPEAKER_13: going to go right into this demo because it is extraordinary what Google has launched, I was talking to a unbelievably senior executive about this at Google socially, I was at a dinner. And you know, this is an example, I think of Google taking this absurdly seriously, and dropping what I'll call right out of the gate right now. I think this could be the OpenAI killer. This could be where Google this moment today when you see these demos. I think this is the moment barred leapfrogs open AI. Sonny, let's get to SPEAKER_17: it. Let's show people what bar.google.com has released. This is big. SPEAKER_19: Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. All right. So this week, what we're going to get me just SPEAKER_20: build a sharing up here. If you go into your barred. And, and you go right over here, you should SPEAKER_00: have this new option called so if you're on the top, right, let's describe it for people listening. If you're not watching, just go to YouTube and type in this weekend startups. But you'll have when you're on a on bar.google.com on the top right, your avatar, you know, you go slightly to the left of it, you'll have that gearbox for your settings, then you'll have help. But then you'll see a puzzle piece. And the puzzle piece in the that icon on the top right of your interface at bar.google.com is extensions. I think the equivalent of extensions and open AI parlance is plugins, call them extensions, plugins, it's the same thing. It's plugging a service into a language model. What did they add? And so yeah, it's a great way of doing it. I think the SPEAKER_23: interesting thing here is they've connected it to core services that Google offers themselves. SPEAKER_19: And so this is bringing together the magic of generative AI. And, you know, these kinds of speech models together with real time information and data from the most important sources for us, highly monetizable sources as well, which are flights, hotels, maps, YouTube, and then workspaces, workspaces, inclusive of your Gmail, your Google Drive docs. And I think it's really exciting what SPEAKER_00: you're able to start using bard for now. Okay, so we have five specific extensions, aka plugins turned on at bard.google.com slash extensions. That's the URL. We'll put this in the show notes. You need to SPEAKER_13: share this video with every single person on your team, you need to get every single employee at your company using these tools before they ask a question in a meeting, because nine out of 10 times, they're going to come to the meeting with 10 more IQ points or 20 more ideas. Let's get started. Where do you want SPEAKER_32: to start with these five extensions? We'll do one example of each. Yeah, let's do it. So let's start with maps right and say, and you can you know, basically you do this at maps. And look, it pulls up the extension and let you click it. Exactly. Oh, that's like, I am planning a drive from Palo Alto. Palo Alto to Napa Valley. Can you provide me directions? Right? SPEAKER_45: Yeah, so this is what we're just going to build up. This is pretty straightforward. No one should be shocked by this. Like normally, you'd have to go in maps and do it. And so you can see here, SPEAKER_19: it's kind of using it, and it's figured it out. And it's given me the driving directions. Let's just say along the way is like, can you find me a Shake Shack along the way to along the way? Right? And, and so what it's able to do is basically kind of, you know, you can double click into it and it says, hey, it's found a Shake Shack at Stanford SPEAKER_49: Shopping Center along the way, you know, from Palo Alto to Napa Valley. Okay, so it's understanding in SPEAKER_48: plain language what you're saying. If we were in our car, and you were to try to do this, SPEAKER_00: were to try to do this, it wouldn't work. It's, it's really hard to do. Find me stuff along the way. SPEAKER_32: Right? Yeah. Um, but you know, I think like, there's no reason for the, you know, this to not SPEAKER_19: to be enabled by voice. And so I think if you're what we're going to start to see come together is, you know, if you're using CarPlay, or your car has Android Auto in it, that you'll be able to use like sort of the voice input button and these technologies start to manifest themselves in our day to day use cases and that so I think that'll be really powerful because this is what happens all SPEAKER_53: the time where you're driving and then you're sort of have this inspirational moment of hey, I want to try this and it can go and figure that out for you. So this didn't blow me out of the SPEAKER_00: water. But I came up with an example if you let me share my screen. Yeah, so we'll do dueling banjos here. Yeah, you know, I use something called all trails. I don't know if people have all SPEAKER_56: trails for finding hikes. But here I asked something that I thought would be a little bit more challenging. At Google Maps, what's an amazing hike I can take in Northern California, that is three to five miles and has stunning views. And I did at Google Maps. Now it said, here are a few amazing hikes. And it gave me, you know, these five hikes, right? SPEAKER_06: Uh, including point Bonita trail, which is that 2.5 mile round trip hike to the lighthouse that has stunning views of the Golden Gate Bridge. I don't know if you ever took that one, SPEAKER_59: like north of the Golden Gate Bridge, ever do that? Oh, yeah, incredible. Yeah, SPEAKER_58: in the Marin headlands. Yeah, it's incredible. Now look at this. I hope this helps you find the SPEAKER_06: perfect height for your next adventure. And sure enough, it plots them on Google Maps. And so this SPEAKER_56: is a really nice experience, right? Easy to understand. And it was correct. I'm going to give them some nice feedback here. But you can start adding, you know, multiple things here that would help. 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Yeah, you cue that one up. Okay. Okay. Um, show me all the Tesla superchargers SPEAKER_70: in Texas on a map and give me a table with the shortest distances between them. See if it doesn't, SPEAKER_71: I don't know if it's going to get this right. This is like a little bit of a complicated thing. I don't even know what I'm asking for here. If I'm being honest. Yeah, but it's using Google map. It's SPEAKER_05: it's querying here. This is not an easy one because I'm asking for a lot, right? Okay. I've got one too. SPEAKER_32: Okay. What's yours? Okay. Let me share mine. So this could be, here's mine. Okay. So I was like, I did, how long is the drive from Atlanta to Orlando and give me some ideas how to keep three kids SPEAKER_19: entertained in the car. Oh, nice. Yeah. And so it says, here's the drive and this is one of their, you know, pre-canned ones, right? So I was just leveraging except that it was great. It's like, the drive is this long. It obviously gives me a Google map. I'm just scrolling through this here. And basically it says, here's some ideas, how to keep your kids entertained, snacks, games, take a break every couple hours. And here's some additional tips. And so I really like how this is, you know, allowing you to kind of bring, you know, these are all different pieces and we've seen them in, in, um, you know, apps being built on top of these APIs, but Google is really bringing things together here around, uh, kind of their technologies. SPEAKER_06: I think we're at a loss for coming up. Let me share my screen. I think you and I are at a bit of a loss for coming up with examples here because this is a new SPEAKER_00: concept, right? Uh, but here, let me, I've been thinking about it and I made up one that was a little bit strange. Uh, but here's what I did. Show me all the Tesla supercharges in Texas on a map and give me a table with the shortest distances between them. So what I'm getting at here is I'm SPEAKER_06: doing competitive intelligence. I just want to know, like how close are these things together? Right. SPEAKER_00: And here we go in Austin test X getting's test is Arlington. It gave me a table here that I could export to sheets. So we're seeing table format. It's formatting it correctly. It's giving me the shortest distance, which seems to be, there are a bunch of them within four miles of each other. That must be, you know, a whole bunch of density. I can put it into a Google sheet, which is quite nice. And it says, here are the shortest distances between the first three superchargers in Texas. And then it decided it would give me the maps of all of them. And then it would start giving me driving directions between them. Uh, so, you know, that's not bad. Um, and then I could ask a follow up. What's the longest distance you can drive between two Tesla superchargers or what is the longest, what would you say? What is SPEAKER_86: the biggest, um, furthest distance, I guess the longest, what's the longest, what would you say? SPEAKER_74: Like the biggest hole, the biggest, uh, uncovered area in the United States for Tesla superchargers? SPEAKER_91: Oh, that's one. That's a tough one. Right. So now I'm working. You don't even have to fix the spelling, David Friedberg: but you don't even, it's not crazy. I'm, I'm such a little, uh, perfectionist here, SPEAKER_35: but okay. Yeah. What's the biggest uncovered area in the United States for Tesla superchargers? SPEAKER_70: Uh, place on, uh, Google maps. Here we go. Let's see. Uh, this one is going to take a little time, SPEAKER_96: right? But this is a really hard one. In other words, like what are the, what's the white space SPEAKER_100: here between Tesla supercharge? Where are the least density of supercharge? You got to think SPEAKER_13: the biggest state in the U S is Alaska and has only one supercharger. It is located in soldanta, SPEAKER_15: has a 4.3. That's interesting. So I guess it would be Alaska. Um, outside of Alaska, SPEAKER_13: what's the sparsest supercharger area? Let's see. So now I'm just like pushing it right to see if it SPEAKER_00: understands the context of the last question in this one, the biggest uncovered area, that's the way to say it, uh, outside of Alaska is North Dakota. Okay. There are no Tesla superchargers in SPEAKER_63: North Dakota. Really? I don't, I find that hard to believe how many Tesla superchargers are in North SPEAKER_108: Dakota. It's going to give me, there's gotta be Tesla superchargers. I know that's hard to believe. SPEAKER_110: Uh, yeah, there are, I see one, uh, just in a regular Google search to be done. Okay. So we found SPEAKER_26: immediately that there are, wait, there are no Tesla superchargers in North Dakota. It's saying, SPEAKER_06: but wait a second, nearby states, but it gives us. Yeah. Okay. So, uh, somebody send this to Sundar and the other folks at Google maps, who's ever is in charge of Google maps still work to be done. So I'll stop sharing there. Okay. So we beat the horse to death there. What should we do next? SPEAKER_19: Okay. Uh, let me take control back here. Yep. I'm off. And I'm going to, by the way, I'm going to go to, um, I'm going to go to flights next. Oh yeah. I, I, that's what I, I had, uh, I had pulled it up. Right. And so, uh, you know, flying flights to Miami for new year's, we're going to go have a party, J Cal, new year's Miami. Great. Let's do it. Um, you know, what's the usual time? Sunny and oh, we should do like a little AI meetup, me and you. AI meetup. Yeah. And, um, you know, look, the flights, it pulls it in from Google flights, gives me a little chart, and then you can kind of click through these and it will, you know, take you into the Google flights interface and go from there. And so I think that's really interesting. Um, uh, you know, here's another example I was doing while you were queuing it went up. It's like, show me flights to Tokyo and give me idea of things to do. How about soul as well? So this is like sort of, uh, you know, one of the experiences that we were trying to, you know, early on try when, uh, plugins became available with open AI around just flight experiences, things to do what, you know, what's there, here's ideas of things to check out. SPEAKER_32: Um, and like, what's interesting is because they own these services, they can start to create a really integrated experience. They don't have to fully rely on a third party and they don't have that SPEAKER_19: issue, you know, which we even talked about on the previous pod where there's a risk of SPEAKER_129: cannibalization, right? If your Zillow took their plug in down. Exactly. Yeah. SPEAKER_26: Kayak plug out. I had Kayak CEO on this week in startups and he, um, and he doesn't believe in this kind of interface. I think he's wrong by the way. I think this interface is going to be a better SPEAKER_13: interface. He seemed to think it wasn't. So I don't know if he was. Yeah. Um, SPEAKER_32: yeah, you know, like, look, natural language. We'll look back and we'll think about how we were just SPEAKER_19: used to click on a box, find an airport, click on the next one, put in dates, you know, look through charts. And, you know, I, I completely agree with you on this is going to be the interface, the go-to interface for, for most parts, uh, for, for folks. Um, and you know, you talked about this SPEAKER_32: last time, you'll probably just be wearing AirPods or, you know, some equivalent and you'll just talk into it and it'll give you the answers and create your itinerary in the background. SPEAKER_136: Or, I mean, imagine apple goggles and it's just showing you this while you and I are talking and SPEAKER_15: it's just coming up. Um, here's, uh, at Google flights, let me ask at Google flights. What's the most affordable business class ticket from the East coast of the United States to Saudi Arabia? SPEAKER_138: Uh, since I'm going there, uh, to keynote their conference while you're pulling that one up, SPEAKER_19: I did find me some stop or less. So while you're doing that one, I have another one pulled up here is like, can you find me some hotels, um, in, uh, this area in Buenos Aires and suggest some things to do there. And again, it finds me the list of hotels and here's a specific date, pick three days and then SPEAKER_127: sort it by price. Okay. Okay. Uh, until you want five stars, let's give me five stars, give me five SPEAKER_19: star only options between October 3rd and 6th. So I found several five star hotels that are available from these dates and it lists them out and you know, we're off to the races and let's verify SPEAKER_110: their five stars. So here they are the paladio, the alvier and the four seasons. Good, good job. SPEAKER_00: So let me share mine. Uh, and I, you know, again, I'm not checking if this is correct. So we do have the hallucination problem that we just saw with Google maps, but, uh, let's see where we're at here. I said, uh, most affordable business class tickets from the east coast of the United States to Saudi SPEAKER_06: Arabia with one stop or less, because sometimes there can be very cheap flights coming out of Boston or DC or New York. And you might, if you're trying to save money, say, you know what, I got some business in Boston. Let me take the Excel up there, do my meetings and then go. Uh, and so here I said, SPEAKER_00: um, and it said the most affordable business class ticket from the east coast United States to Saudi SPEAKER_35: Arabia, and it gave me three of them and Royal air, Morocco, Egypt air, Kuwait airlines. I would have never looked at these and they're only 2600, 2800 round trip for business class. That doesn't SPEAKER_13: make sense. One's got a layover in Kuwait, one in Cairo, one in Casablanca, but those are SPEAKER_151: ridiculous prices. I don't think that's correct. Usually it's five to $10,000 for round trip. SPEAKER_110: Yeah, usually, especially to the middle east. Yeah, especially to the middle east. And it, uh, SPEAKER_15: Oh, look at that. And I got, uh, I put it in a Google flights. Um, so this seems pretty promising. SPEAKER_13: Um, yeah, give me all the flights from, uh, the bay area to New York city with go, go in flight SPEAKER_00: internet. Now I'm asking for something very specific. Like let's say I had a go, go membership or something. This is a stupid query, but I wonder if it even knows what that is because I know that Google flights does put internet in there. Uh, oh, unfortunately searching for flights with internet SPEAKER_13: is not possible. Um, but it gives me some other ones. Not bad. I mean, I could see this being a SPEAKER_159: better interface for Google flights, right? 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It's simple. It's cost effective. It's gorgeous. And they keep adding feature after feature after feature. That's when technology is at its best, isn't it? When you pay one price, but the product gets better and better and better. You get that with your Tesla, you get that with your iPhone, you get that with Squarespace. These are the legendary brands of the internet of this era, go to squarespace.com for a free trial. And when you're ready to launch, I want you to go to squarespace.com slash twist. And they're going to give you 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain, go to squarespace.com slash twist because they know we sent you. So let's keep going here. YouTube, SPEAKER_63: I guess is the next one we could try or we can go to Google Docs. What do you think or Gmail? SPEAKER_19: I have a Gmail one. Okay. I did an example. I said, show me my most recent emails with Jason Calacanis. And it basically pulls up the email, a quick subject and summary. But you can see here, you sent a summary for the all in summit videos. Yes. That's my newsletter. And you know, a couple of personal emails that we have with each other. SPEAKER_34: Ask them to, uh, now write a summary in bullet points of the topics I've discussed with Jason SPEAKER_13: Calacanis on email over the past two years. Oh, wow. Okay. This would be like something you give to SPEAKER_19: a research assistant, right? Yeah. Let's just say here. Sure. Yeah. This is harder with you because SPEAKER_158: you send emails out. Well, this is interesting. Here's a summary of topics you've discussed with SPEAKER_34: Jason Calacanis last year in bullet points, investments, poker, upcoming poker games, blur that out blur and that blank and blanks wedding. Yeah. Beeps wedding. Uh, and so that's pretty interesting. If you think of it conceptually. Yeah. I just asked, uh, if it could tell me who the top SPEAKER_06: 10 people I was emailing with from 10 2010 to 2015, um, from the emails in my Gmail and it did not get it SPEAKER_13: right. Let me ask it. Um, who are venture capitalists who I have traded emails with in my Gmail account? SPEAKER_00: Let's see if it, I mean, now it's gotta look at the people and determine if they're a venture capitalists. I don't know how it does that, but it's accessing my emails. All right. Well, this is pretty interesting. Um, it got a little bit correct. It said the following venture capitalists are mentioned in SPEAKER_06: your Gmail account, Dave Hornig from August and Jesse Draper from halogen ventures. Um, so it's, SPEAKER_00: it's kinda scratching the surface of being useful. I would say this is not useful yet, but it's close. Yes. Um, and it's, that's kind of an interesting experience if you think about it. Um, and what SPEAKER_13: items have I purchased? Oh, I see. Here's a good one. What Nick's games did I buy tickets to based on my Gmail? Let's see. Cause you know, I'd have like the receipts in there, right? Yeah. And I mean, SPEAKER_178: that would be kind of an interesting one and I could not find any people buying tickets. Okay. That didn't work. Hmm. Uh, I have one. I have one. So far, this is terrible. So whoever's working at SPEAKER_180: Gmail, terrible job, but I think you're, you're pushing the boundaries. That's what we're here to SPEAKER_32: do. I like it. I think it, yeah, but you know, credit to Google, they're putting these things out early. They're not waiting for them to be perfect and letting us play. Okay. I agree. I agree. All right. So, um, you know, we had an idea a couple of years ago, I'll share with you with my co-founder. We were thinking of things to work on before we started definitive. One of the things SPEAKER_19: that we were, um, and, you know, thinking about building was a wildfire suppression company that used drones to fight wildfires. And so I, I have this doc in my Google drive. So I asked to give me a summary of the wildfire suppression document. And so it actually gave me a, a quick summary of SPEAKER_34: that document from August of 2021. Yeah. Yeah. Now, if you asked it, a follow up, yeah. Um, tell me other businesses, other startups like this, uh, from the web, SPEAKER_06: or has anybody tried, has anybody raised money for this idea, you know, and this is where if SPEAKER_13: crunch base or pitch book, you know, add their data in there, you could start to use or angel list, put their data in there. You can start to, you know, be able to pull data from SPEAKER_26: those databases. Now, I don't know what that does to their business. And if they have a motivation to do that, or they'd rather you come to pitch book, French base, uh, here are some other SPEAKER_35: startups developing similar concepts. Rain is developing a network of autonomous aircraft SPEAKER_192: that can be deployed to contain wildfires within 10 minutes of ignition. Triad is developing an IOT network of sensing tech wildfires early before they have a chance to spread. Burn bot is developing robotic fuel management system that can help to reduce the risk of wildfires. Torch is developing a small outdoor smoke detector that can be used to alert homeowners. Insight robotics and purpose built RGB and multi spectral aerial survey system used to map. Yeah, so this SPEAKER_06: is interesting. Uh, the most interesting one I saw was a forest management one, uh, that a founder SPEAKER_13: pitched me on that's public knowledge. I'm not speaking at school here, but imagine you had a, SPEAKER_06: um, what do they call those? It's not like a dump truck, but you know, like a plow with a thing on the front that could like knock through the forest, you know, like a tractor type device. So imagine SPEAKER_00: like a really powerful tractor that would knock down trees and make a fire lane. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. SPEAKER_45: Yeah. To make, uh, yeah, exactly. That's, you know, containing fires is, is the most important SPEAKER_06: thing. You can't really put them out. Now imagine that was fire resistant, maybe, you know, fire SPEAKER_00: retardant fire resistant, and it was remote control. Yeah. So now there's a fire, God forbid, you know, in South Lake Tahoe. Yeah. And you send one of these things up the hill. Yeah. And you have it start SPEAKER_06: knocking a fire lane out. Yeah. Knocking trees down and there's embers everywhere. It's the densest smoke you ever saw. Yeah. Uh, the, the, the remote control fire truck doesn't care. So I thought that was like a really interesting idea. The, the idea I had was a blanket system. So, you SPEAKER_56: know, uh, fire blankets, there's a fire blanket, uh, that's what you're supposed to use. Yeah. On cars. So I, I looked for this. There are sheets that, uh, some fire departments have looked for a, uh, on YouTube. Oh, well, let's do this on YouTube. We have the YouTube search. Let's do it on YouTube. SPEAKER_59: Oh, let's, let's try it here. Let's use it. Yeah. So let's ask at YouTube. Um, we don't need a producer anymore. So sorry, Nick and producer, John, producer, John and producer, Nick, we have SPEAKER_56: Google barred. That's it. Yeah. So I want you to do at YouTube, show me a video of a fire blanket SPEAKER_144: to cover a burning car with for fire departments or something to that effect. Now, I think these SPEAKER_56: have those for your house, right? But like, well, they don't have them for your house, but I had seen these fire blankets before and I, they have them for your house for like people. Uh, and so here, SPEAKER_216: watch this even to put over your stove. I've seen it, but yeah, I'm talking about putting it over your SPEAKER_206: house. Oh, the entire house. Yeah. So look at this video now. We'll press that video. Yeah. Okay. SPEAKER_56: Let's do it. And now you watch this video. It's so cool. So here is a fire blanket on an electric SPEAKER_06: vehicle for firefighters. Just drop this blanket on top of a burning car, no oxygen. It's a heavy blanket and, uh, nobody has to waste any water or anything. I'm just fast forwarding through it SPEAKER_220: for everyone. Yeah. It's pretty amazing. And so they just, there they go. Yeah. It's like, they're walking a, you know, a tarp. They're just taking a tarp and throwing it over a burning car. That is incredible. Now imagine that on the top of your house or a helicopter dropping on the top of a 10 million dollar house, you know, somewhere, uh, in Malibu where you just had that for your house and there was some way to have it roll down. Now your house is covered in a fire blanket. SPEAKER_35: All the embers hit the fire blanket. What could that cost? 50 grand, 25 grand to install, a hundred grand. You know, on a 10 million dollar house in fire country, a hundred thousand SPEAKER_220: dollar system would not be crazy. Um, and you know, that'd be a lot cheaper. 1% of the cost of a house. And what are you paying insurance per year? So it's kind of like, you know, those planes that SPEAKER_20: people get to have parachutes. It's kind of like that. Yeah. You, you, you hope you're never going SPEAKER_158: to use it. It's completely ridiculous. You're talking about the series. Yeah. Okay. So we got the YouTube SPEAKER_06: working here. So let's do a YouTube video. Summarize the three earliest video of Chamath SPEAKER_56: Palihapitiya on YouTube. That's an interesting one because I will do that sometimes in short videos in reverse chronological order to find the oldest videos of somebody. I don't know. Let's see if this does it correctly. Summarize the three earliest videos of Chamath Palihapitiya on YouTube. It's searching barred is this barred circles pulsating and so is the YouTube. Sorry, I can't answer that SPEAKER_26: right now. Okay. Okay. Um, so it doesn't work. Um, how about we ask a question about Mr. Beast? SPEAKER_13: What are Mr. Beast top three videos? Oh yeah. Okay. That's a silly, easy one. You'd have to go if you wanted to know that you would simply go to his, uh, but if he did it here, it'd be quicker. Three SPEAKER_214: videos by view by Mr. East gotta get that one. Right. That's easy. I mean, we'd hope so. SPEAKER_168: Or maybe this plugin isn't working right now. This extension goes back to integration. Let's see. I, SPEAKER_32: I feel like this one, here we go. So top three videos by view. Um, that's pretty good. And you SPEAKER_19: know, he has said this recently, so he was saying, right. The most recent videos have the most views. So these are all pretty recent. They're all within the last six months. So say, um, uh, show me the top SPEAKER_98: three by year for Mr. Beast. That could be interesting. It's top three by year publishing SPEAKER_241: date, something like that. Oh yeah. This had a little bit more content. Oh, it was just, it was just showing some other stuff down here. Yep. Let's see what it's doing here. So let's, it can't SPEAKER_244: answer that. Ah, see. Yeah. Come on. Well, you know, I, my guess is this is just a limitation of. SPEAKER_246: And by the way, this is wrong. This video got 501 million views, so. Oh, okay. It was wrong. Okay. SPEAKER_19: So that's feedback that we need because, um, that's not true. Okay. So when, when something like SPEAKER_00: this is wrong, let me ask you a technical question here. Uh, sunny. Um, why is it wrong? Why is it not getting this right? Cause the human could get this race. It's the language model. Yeah. Is it the extension? Is it the data set? Is it reinforcement learning? Why would he get this SPEAKER_32: wrong? This seems like very simple. Yeah. So there, uh, there's a couple of reasons. Let's break it down. Um, so first thing is these models are, uh, you know, through their reinforcement, uh, learning have been taught to, uh, you know, always provide answers because telling a human, no, that it, when they were being trained, they learned that when they tell a human, no, the human doesn't like it. So they always try to give an answer. That's part of it. And that's why they very rarely say, I don't know. Um, okay. Then what happens is, um, it's in this particular case, it's a limitation of, you know, and I, I don't know this a hundred percent, but I could, I'm pretty willing to guess given, you know, knowledge of like APIs, that type of search that we're asking for it to do, um, it's a limitation of the Google search, the YouTube search API. It doesn't let you search by year by top because the API just doesn't exist. And think about that yourself. Like if you're in YouTube and you're sorting by search, you, there is really no option to say, show me by year, right? You have to kind of go by view or by year and then do like a secondary work yourself. And it just hasn't, they haven't given it the ability to understand how to manipulate the API results to get that answer. So it's a kind of a combination of those two things that are leading to that limitation. Interesting. Uh, SPEAKER_178: cause I just asked it what, which YouTube channels have the most subscribers and views. Yeah. And you know, it's, I don't know how correct this is, but it says, there are some of the YouTube channels with the most subscribers, MDM, Mr. Beast, the most subscribed. I mean, I don't think this is correct. I think it's getting this MDM has 606,000 subscribers. It's not even close. Yeah. I don't know where it's getting that. It's not actually SPEAKER_257: getting that from YouTube. Yeah. Hey everybody. Today I'm joined by Roots CEO, Dan Dorfman. Dan, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me, Jason. Tell everybody here in the audience, SPEAKER_62: what is Roots and what makes it different than the other real estate investing platforms? I'm SPEAKER_260: a complete neophyte. Roots is a REIT with a little twist. Sorry, I had to do it. We are the first real estate portfolio that we know of that builds wealth for both our investors and our residents. And we've created a unique win-win model that creates partners and not tenants. We built this model because I've spent my entire career in real estate investment, 13 years. And what you always hear from people is, Hey, location, location, location, but location at the end of the day, doesn't actually pay your bills. And location doesn't let you know when there's a small leak that will create mold in the future. The people do. And the people who rent your properties are really the people who generate your profits. And when those people are your partners, it really creates this amazing scenario. And it's this model that's helped us grow our fund over 36% in the last two years. SPEAKER_257: Fantastic. How can people learn more about this opportunity, both on the tenant side or on the investor side? Check us out at invest with roots.com backslash twist. All right, everybody go to invest with roots, no spaces, no dashes.com slash twist to sign up and start investing today. SPEAKER_32: Like I said, I think as an early release and as the examples that they provide. So if we, if we, you know, switch back for a quick second, like, you know, when you're looking for the content, I think it does a good job when you're looking for kind of numerical answers. This is where, you know, to be honest, where like definitive actually comes into the picture because we help LLMs with kind of numerical information and reason through that, and then kind of provide SPEAKER_19: that, um, you know, alongside the information that may exist. And so, you know, maybe, uh, we, we can work more closely with Google on this and come up with something. SPEAKER_266: Yeah. So I'm going to go ahead and just say to Google, uh, C plus, SPEAKER_15: you know, like congratulations, but I'm giving him a C, a C. Okay. I'm just giving him a letter SPEAKER_00: grade of a C because I want them to work a little bit harder here, but I guess they just want to show they're in the game and that these things will be connected. And, and this to me reminds me of like a blocker strategy with consumers. Microsoft used to do the same thing when Lotus notes was getting a lot SPEAKER_13: of steam Microsoft and it's, it was called vaporware back in the eighties and nineties nineties. Really SPEAKER_269: they would Microsoft would launch vaporware. It didn't exist, but they would now say, Hey, SPEAKER_00: we have a Lotus notes product coming. It's in development. It's called project, you know, armadillo or something. They would come up with some super name. And what that was designed to do was to freeze the market, freeze developers, freeze enterprises from engaging with some new product. So this, that's what this reeks of for me is Google saying, just so you know, SPEAKER_06: if anybody was thinking about funding a startup in flights or hotels, we got, we're, we're, we're doing this. We're, we're in it. We're in it. We're in the game. So don't think that we're asleep at the SPEAKER_00: wheel. This is a, we're not asleep at the wheel move, but Sundar needs to get each of these people in a room on Mondays, Google docs on Tuesdays, the YouTube team, they got to come to his office SPEAKER_56: and they got to, and Sundar has to do these searches and say, let's talk about how quickly SPEAKER_06: these type of things are going to be fixed. Yeah. But I could see this being the game changer of all SPEAKER_00: game changers. And this makes me think Google searches franchise is in good hands. I think, you SPEAKER_04: know, this is going to increase revenue. Does it make the J trade list? A hundred percent. SPEAKER_06: Okay. I think Google is going to be number one at language models. I am convinced SPEAKER_192: that Google beats Microsoft slash open AI. That's my belief. I don't think they beat them SPEAKER_56: to the extent that Google beat thing. So if you want to look at success, I think this could be more like a duopoly kind of Android iOS situation. So I'm not saying they're going to dominate the market. I think they're going to win. You know, if we, if we were to look at, you know, the top five products in this space, SPEAKER_00: I think it's Google Microsoft. And then after that, I'm unsure who would be down that list, maybe new entrance, maybe Apple gets their act together and buys Claude or something and makes it the Siri team. That's what I would do. If I was Tim cook right now, I'd be looking at Claude AI or, you know, some other language startup that's got a good head start. And I would say, I would hire them and I would fire, I would tell everybody who works at Siri, you now work for the team at Claude or SPEAKER_285: whatever. Yeah. Here's your new boss. You didn't get it done, but you keep your job and now you work SPEAKER_13: for this person. And then I would fire whoever's running Siri. So Siri should have been this. And then SPEAKER_288: I, same thing with Amazon. Yeah. If I, if I'm Alexa with, yeah, I mean, it's, it's an embarrassment SPEAKER_35: that Syria and Alexa didn't get this done. So if I'm Amazon, I'm looking for a $10 billion purchase in AI, you know, one to 20 billion, whatever it is, find the best team, buy them and put them in charge of Alexa. And now you're, Hey, let's say it was the Claude team. Who else would be in this, SPEAKER_294: in this category of language models that have good teams? SPEAKER_45: Yeah. I mean, like sort of, I mean, there's also open source models out there, but like, if you want SPEAKER_19: it, you know, those are, you're not gonna be able to buy, but you can build off of it. But I would say like the ones that coheres, a big one cloud is a big one, right? Yeah. You know, all the people that created the transformer technology, they all are running one of these. Right. And then I also believe exactly, you know, didn't read and Mustafa from deep mind start, uh, one of these like, SPEAKER_03: just, you know, there's three or four. Exactly. There's two or four. Those are all gonna get taken SPEAKER_15: out. I think they all get bought by Apple far too behind on this. Yeah. Amazon is also embarrassingly SPEAKER_158: far behind on this. They gotta catch up. The fact that Google is gonna run away with us. They should all be looking at this. Like they looked at mobile. This is like year one or two of smartphones. Yeah. You're one of smartphones. And all of a sudden we have two candidates for Android and iOS. You don't wanna, you know, like somebody here could be blackberry. Somebody here could be docomo. Like the, the, the race has not been, uh, the, the race just started. So get, get your SPEAKER_13: butts in gear. Everybody let's talk about some of the other news stories. Uh, congratulations on your C C plus. Uh, you did something to the team at, I give it a B, you know, I say, SPEAKER_32: yeah, because look, you know, a year ago, we weren't getting early products like this. We haven't got early products from Google in a long time. And we have this, like innovation is doing what we want it to do where it compet competition is forcing, uh, it's forcing big companies to move fast, release things that are not quite perfect yet. And, uh, you're grading it on Google's SPEAKER_220: previous performance of being slow to the party. Correct. So on a Google scale B. Okay, sure. I'm giving it a market score of C. You're giving it a Google score of B. Yeah. Yeah. Somewhere. So B minus SPEAKER_158: C plus is where the truth is. Yeah. Which feels about right. I'm maybe I'm being too pessimistic SPEAKER_06: here. Uh, this Microsoft co-pilot is gonna roll out starting September 26. This is gonna be available in windows, uh, Microsoft 365 edge bang. And this is going to work as it's like a standalone app, but you're gonna also be able to right click on stuff. And this reminds me of notion and Coda's implementation and Grammarly's implementation of language models. You're in the app, the co-pilot's SPEAKER_13: there. You highlight something you ask a question, but, uh, this feels to me like, uh, a game changer. SPEAKER_32: Am I right or wrong? Yeah. I read a tweet this morning that said like Microsoft seemingly looked SPEAKER_19: at all the great AI stuff for the last two years and basically has put it all into their products, right? Either through the relationship with open AI or this co-pilot where it's a co-pilot for SPEAKER_32: everything. So in the same way that we're playing around with Bard here, their approach, because they don't have access to, you know, all the same services, they don't really have like a, you know, SPEAKER_19: a map service that's as widely used and, uh, like a video service that's as widely used. Their entire approach here is to build a co-pilot for everything that's running as like a chat. SPEAKER_32: So like funny enough, full circle for them. It's like clippy, uh, you know, but re re-imagined for 2023, 2024 where, uh, alongside anything you're doing, you have access to a co-pilot and they're not limiting it to, um, you know, websites or data. They're trying to make it like a generalized co-pilot for all tasks. That's, what's really incredible. Hmm. All right. I think we got through the news stories, right? Do we miss anything in the news? Uh, there was one more, which is YouTube, um, is, and you know, we don't have the demo, but we can, we can pull it up. YouTube, um, is made available, uh, and I have like the, uh, screen share here. So let me pull that up for us. Um, YouTube has made available, um, this, uh, editing app for creators that also has AI. So it'll allow you to, uh, you know, some of the features that we've been demoing there, they've made those available. So you can say, you know, Hey, create like a video of a panda doing this. And so if you can create a short and so, yeah. And so, um, this is interesting here. Yeah, go ahead. No, no, SPEAKER_56: as you say, a panda drinking coffee. So if I, you know, was a comedian, I could make this video, SPEAKER_171: put my joke on top of it, right? Yes. Or, you know, they do that face overlay thing. Exactly. SPEAKER_56: This basically shortens the time between publishing and creation, uh, in the same way that filters did on Instagram, right? You could put a filter on Instagram and you didn't have to open up Photoshop and take the extra 10 minutes to do that. So this is strict, super brilliant. Yep. SPEAKER_35: Uh, it's really good. I think that's, so you have basically two groups of people at YouTube. SPEAKER_13: One's making the extension. One's making the creator tools for an idea. Yeah. Um, and I think that's SPEAKER_19: gonna, you know, if I put something out there, I think YouTube shorts will surpass, uh, tick tock SPEAKER_328: and, uh, Instagram reels. Hmm. Interesting. Uh, so I'll show you this next one that I really SPEAKER_08: like that you did. Let me share my screen here. Uh, can I, can I add one thing here on the YouTube? SPEAKER_330: Yeah, go ahead. So, uh, recently, and I just mentioned this cause I've been noticing this. So what YouTube is doing, and I don't know if we're a partner account or something or why they're doing it to our account specifically, but when you, so right now you're looking at the YouTube studio backend for an episode. This is an episode we recently released with the founder, Will Kane, his company is Avnos, and they're basically building hybrid direct air capture boxes that take CO2 out of the air and then convert it into water. Awesome. It's carbon capture essentially. Yep. Um, what they did was we had a title, so you could see right here, I'm highlighting the title of the episode and in the core, it's not doing it right now. And it's only done it to like one out of every 10 videos that we've done over the last couple of weeks. But in the bottom corner, it says, oh, here's an AI punch up for your episode title. Ah, this was the punch up that they gave us. So originally it was like, you know, how HDAC, whatever, some title that isn't as catchy. And it gave us what, look at the path to reaching net zero with Avno CEO, Will Kane, which I thought was much better and much shorter and tighter. And yeah, I was really impressed, but it's odd because it doesn't do it for every episode. It does it for like one in every 10 or 15 and it just happens. SPEAKER_13: I mean, it'd be testing it. Yeah. And I think the other thing we saw was zoom this week added summaries. So if you're in zoom meeting summary is enabled, a temporary transcript is being generated SPEAKER_06: for this feature. So while we're on this call, it's going to make a summary and I used it this week three or four times. Um, and then it emails you the summary when you're done. And for a couple of investment meetings that I took this week with startups, I can send that summary to the other people who are helping make the decision. And it was unbelievably accurate. Nick, you want to speak to, uh, we did it for all into by accident. Um, yeah. And the summary was fantastic. If you were to, if you were to give it the summary on a scale of one to a hundred, a hundred being somebody who graduated at Ivy league school, summarizing it for $2,000 and taking two days, where would you put SPEAKER_330: this on one to a hundred? It's an 80 it's, it's better than someone who is a bad writer would do a worse job than the summary, like a human being. That's like an, uh, an okay writer would do. So it's a B to give me some B B plus something like that in the eighties. SPEAKER_06: Yeah. I was going to give it like exactly an 85 to 90 right now, 88. It was so good that it's SPEAKER_08: better than most writers I've worked with in my editorial career. I was shocked. SPEAKER_330: What's really surprising about it is, and John and I were talking about this before it's actually better than when, you know, we'll transcribe, we were doing this ourselves. We would transcribe meetings, put it into chat GPT and say, Hey, please summarize this for us. It is far better SPEAKER_346: than that. Like far. So I don't know killing chat GPT. I don't know if I think I'll tell you why SPEAKER_35: model or they're not here. Here's the secret. I don't know which model they're using. I assume they're using an open source one because they don't want to be dependent and have to pay because this would get very expensive, very quick. I think if they were using chat GPT, even with the declining costs, I think the reason they have an advantage is because they know each of the SPEAKER_00: meeting participants log it in their video stems and their audio stems. So it doesn't have to guess that I'm talking right now because it knows that I'm talking right now because it's Jason Calacanis is logged in and Sundeep Madras in. Now, John said, sometimes it mixes up who says what, but I think that's going to be their huge advantage. Yeah. I've seen that happen as well, SPEAKER_330: but the only time I saw that happen is when you don't give the context for the person that you're talking about. So like John and I were talking about Jason earlier before he joined the call, but we didn't mention him by name. I was just like, oh, he's going to be on in a minute. So then when Zoom says that, it's like, oh, they refer to you as he instead of Jason. So it can get a little bit confused if you're talking about something or someone that's not actually present in the meeting or that you're not giving them a name. But it was one of the first products that SPEAKER_350: I've seen that actually made me say, wow, in a while in the AI space. SPEAKER_197: Um, yeah, it's really good. And again, it's year one. So also in meeting, I'll just, can I add one SPEAKER_32: thing to it? We used it this week and like, you can also go back and say, Hey, what did that person SPEAKER_110: just say? And you can go back to, you know, if you have a little bit of a longer meeting, SPEAKER_13: I thought that was super useful too. Yeah. So let me show you this thing that you gave me where you upload an image. Let me just share my screen here. I thought this was like the most interesting demo. SPEAKER_192: Um, I could see this being super powerful for e-commerce being built into Shopify and Squarespace pretty quickly. Yeah. So if I share my screen, you want to sell your stuff, right? It's SPEAKER_168: just like how much pain, you know, exactly, right? Like it's the only reason you don't do is you SPEAKER_58: want to write the whole description, but this is well here. I uploaded this image. I have this, SPEAKER_35: uh, I'm, you know, I'm in love with anchor products. If you and great, you are my favorite SPEAKER_13: products. I, uh, and they have this little tiny cube. It's literally the size of a smaller than the baseball and it flips up and this little slide comes out of the side for your watch, your phone. And then underneath that phone, the flat top of the cube, you can put your AirPods. If you have the chart inducting charging ones. All right. So very simple. I upload, SPEAKER_35: uh, an image here, the screenshot it puts in, uh, and it figures out that this is this anchor thing. And I say, describe it in a sentence or two by the little green thing on the bottom is my SPEAKER_178: Grammarly. So don't worry about that. Shout out to my friends at Grammarly. Uh, CEO is just on the SPEAKER_70: pop pod. Uh, it charges your iPhone watch and AirPods in one tiny, sexy cube. Then I say, generate, generate. There you go. There you go. And it will, uh, and it starts writing introducing the anchor SPEAKER_13: three in one cube with max save. This innovative charging cube is designed to make your life easier and more efficient with its compact size and sleek design. It's not just practical, but also pleasing to the eye. This incredible device allows you to charge your phone, your iPhone, Apple watch, SPEAKER_220: and AirPods all at once, eliminating the need for multiple chargers, cluttering up your space, say goodbye to tangle course and a load of streamlined charging experiences. I mean, come on, like literally this is absurd. No more lugging around multiple chargers when you're on the go with advanced temperature control features. I mean, give me a break. And now you just, boom, put this on eBay. So I think for people who let's say you were reselling this, let's say I was just trying to clear out old electronics, like boom. And so this needs to be built into eBay, SPEAKER_06: but obviously this third party's doing it. And this is absolutely fantastic. Once again, a $30 an hour job is gone. Yeah. You literally could be like a person who speaks English as their third language and do this, right? You could do this offshore in a country where the person isn't even native or speaks broken English, or I could probably do it in broken, you know, Spanish or SPEAKER_144: something. We're getting to the point where, um, we're going to eliminate every 20, 30, $40 an hour SPEAKER_120: job for a writer or researcher. It's just all, it's done folks. It's done. I'm telling you. SPEAKER_32: And I think it does a good job for like, uh, the kind of recycling economy too. Like there's so many things that don't get sold because the buried entry to writing that description was too much. And now if it's just image, you know, it should very quickly, those guys should be able to change SPEAKER_19: it so that it can even give you like a short description on its own. And you can say, regenerate SPEAKER_32: a couple of times and then push one button, publish it out. I think we're going to see that super SPEAKER_13: fast. Uh, the other one I thought was really good was, um, you, uh, showed me that you could, SPEAKER_56: uh, do this sec insights. Can you show sec insights now? I don't think it has every 10 Q and it, cause I'm trying to find Uber in here and it only has like a handful of companies in the database. SPEAKER_374: So you gotta pick from, does it not have Uber? It doesn't have Uber, but it has Apple and meta and SPEAKER_06: Amazon. So where, where do you want to start Amazon? Yeah. So let's, uh, yeah. Okay. Let me, SPEAKER_110: let me, uh, pull mine up here. Yeah. I've got it. And you can pick which quarter you add it. Boom. And, uh, I guess exactly. So I can start my conversation. So you can start your question SPEAKER_56: about Apple. So, um, why don't you ask it, um, how does, how is the services business going? SPEAKER_35: And let's see, because that's a thing that, you know, as people stop buying, you know, the latest iPhone, I was just tweeting the other day that I'm now skipping a generation. I went from 13. I just, Oh, you're not getting the USB C. No, I am, but I, I didn't get 14. Cause I knew USB was coming. Yeah. I have the 13 max pro I'm getting the 15 max pro with USB C strictly for the plug. I'm literally SPEAKER_13: buying a $1,700 phone. I buy the highest memory. Uh, and I feel like an idiot, but I feel better SPEAKER_35: because I skipped a generation. I'm getting 600 traded in. So net net, it's a thousand, but yeah. David Friedberg: So it's generating a bunch of sub queries. That's interesting. So it must have asked the LLM. SPEAKER_386: What are the questions you should ask? Yeah, it is. So that's an interesting approach. That's a very SPEAKER_35: meta approach. What is the revenue of Apple services business? What is the net income of Apple service? What's the growth rate of Apple services business? It's having to do all these sub queries. SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because we, we said, how is it going? Right. So that's such a, it, from that it has to, SPEAKER_390: um, and here we go, boom. Oh, here we go. Okay. So it's still generating. So maybe, SPEAKER_392: wow, this is pretty crazy. Yeah. Uh, business. Boom. Yeah. So it just takes you to the 21 billion. SPEAKER_158: Yeah. Right. Yeah. And then, so it gives you a summary and then it gives you the links to it. This is super, this is what you would ask an analyst. SPEAKER_19: Here's the growth rate, right? 8% and, uh, revenue is 21 billion and it doesn't know the net income. So it's kind of working through it, but it's, it's interesting. And, you know, this is what we're all gonna have very soon for all our documents, right? In the same way that you can do it for these SPEAKER_34: structured ones. Yeah. And so then the question becomes who wins the day? Would you do this on SPEAKER_06: barred or chat GPT four or five and it gives you the right answer or does the sec build this into their website or is there a, you know, $500 a year service or Bloomberg adds it and it's really fine tuned. And I, I think it's gonna be like the choice. You can use a free word processor online. You can use free project management online, or you can use a sauna base camp Monday, you know, like really industrial. Well, I would say Monday and a sauna, the industrial strength project management tools, or you could use one that's, you know, a little more lightweight. I think base camp is the lighter weight, simpler version, or you can use notion and code templates, or you can find a word or Google SPEAKER_56: doc or an Excel template, right? Yeah. There's 10 different ways. You'll be able to do it. I think there'll be 10 different ways to use this AI and it depends on how industrial strength. Well, and it SPEAKER_19: did give a summary after it was done. And so we were kind of checking it in progress here and, and, and SPEAKER_03: I'll just read it out to everyone says the services business for Apple in, uh, you know, 2023 Q3 generated 21 billion with a growth rate of 8% of the previous quarter. That's. Yeah, exactly. Um, unfortunately the net income and operating margin are not provided in these available documents, which they don't break it out perhaps. And the market. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and this is, SPEAKER_32: so I just want to build on what you just said. Um, this is where, like, this is obviously a purely off this public document, but this is where I think there'll be different level of services. And the way to think about this is Yahoo finance versus Koi Finn versus Bloomberg. Yeah. And so depending on your sophistication level, uh, you know, you'll probably start with Yahoo finance because or Google finance because it's free and then you can move your way up to Koi Finn, which I don't know if you've used it SPEAKER_410: at all. Um, what is Koi Finn? Oh yeah. It's like a mini Bloomberg. It's, it's free. Uh, it's free. SPEAKER_32: And then, um, they have some pricing depending on like, you know, uh, no, no, it's all web based. It's just, uh, I have it up here. Right. And so it's all just web based. And so if you want to go, yeah. And, um, and if you, you know, it gives you like two years of financials and estimates, but if you pay 35 bucks a month, you get 10 and then you get some additional information as you go to SPEAKER_19: pro. So look, it goes from zero to 35 to 70 and, uh, it's, it's really incredible. It's it's, uh, SPEAKER_32: you know, it's much better than Yahoo finance. It's not Bloomberg, but Bloomberg is also, you know, $2,000 a month, right? Give or take. And so, um, I think we're going to see the same thing emerge in, in this space. Um, and this is a great tool. I don't know if you're using it or not, but you, SPEAKER_19: you could use it for the J trading portfolio. Uh, and it does, it's really, really great. David Friedberg: Awesome. Yeah. Wow. This is fantastic. Yeah. Shout out to our friends at, uh, Koi fin. I'm SPEAKER_06: going to start trading a little bit more actively now. Um, I kind of built up my portfolio, but, uh, now that it's the end of the year and I, I feel like I'm satisfied, I'm going to clear out some losers to get those tax lost harvesting. I'm going to sell some winners. So I net that out, I guess the SPEAKER_13: profits or whatever. Um, I gotta, I gotta figure out the tax treatment of losses. Can you carry over stock losses to the next year? How do I get the answer to that question? I got, you know, SPEAKER_06: I never been an active trader. So if I lost a hundred thousand on a trade. Yeah. And then I, can I take those losses against a trade the next year that had profits? In other words, I sell a hundred thousand in Uber shares next year, but I lost a hundred thousand on my Disney SPEAKER_46: shares this year. What happens? I don't know what the carry over timeframe is, but we should get advice or ask, you know, one of these things we're doing, but what I will say is, uh, you can't buy SPEAKER_19: it back. That's called wash trading, right? So there's some limits and how fast you can buy it SPEAKER_189: back. Oh yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. Right. So you can't take the loss and then buy it back. SPEAKER_110: Yeah. You have to wait a time period, like 90 days or, you know, something along those lines, SPEAKER_06: but that makes sense because let's say I lost a hundred thousand on my Disney trade. I sell it. Yeah. And then let's say I had some profitable private company like Robin hood. I sell a hundred thousand on my Robin hood. I don't pay tax on that. It's a wash. Yeah. But I still want to own that Disney. SPEAKER_427: Disney. Yeah. So I just buy it again, you know, next year. Yeah. Uh, and I'm buying it at $80 a SPEAKER_06: share instead of when I bought it at a hundred dollars a share. Cause I still believe in Disney. I think they're gonna get sold and you know, I think it's gonna work. Yeah. Yeah. So there's some SPEAKER_19: time limits, which I'm not an expert on, but, uh, look it up. All right. Listen, SPEAKER_35: this has been another amazing episode. Thank you so much to Sandeep Madra. Everybody check out definitive intelligence and, uh, yeah, let's do an AI. We should do like an AI meetup or conference kind of thing based on this, like a, this weekend AI demo day or something. You got that beautiful SPEAKER_230: office there I see behind you or something. We'll do a meetup or something. All right. We'll see you SPEAKER_285: all next time on this week in startups. Bye. Bye.