Previously we were using a 'banking as a service' provider that had business ID verification as part of the bundle.
Now we have a bank that allows us to process payments, but we're not provided with services for ID verifying businesses and beneficial owners. Having been through an audit, I know that's something we absolutely need to have in place before we consider onboarding new businesses.
Some vendors I'm investigating:
withpersona.com - seems focused on KYC (retail customers) not businesses - seems like a weak fit
LexisNexus "instantID-Business" https://risk.lexisnexis.com/products/instantid-business - seems appropriate, wondering if they have an ancient tech stack
id.trulioo.com - seems appropriate, wondering if they have massive fixed fees every month vs. pay-by-the-drink (we might onboard a dozen businesses a month, we don't need a plan with four or five figure monthly charges)
alloy.com - every bank uses these guys, which I like. Again, concerned about pricing.
socure.com - I think Alloy resells them anyway.
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Previously we were using a 'banking as a service' provider that had business ID verification as part of the bundle.
Now we have a bank that allows us to process payments, but we're not provided with services for ID verifying businesses and beneficial owners. Having been through an audit, I know that's something we absolutely need to have in place before we consider onboarding new businesses.
Some vendors I'm investigating:
withpersona.com - seems focused on KYC (retail customers) not businesses - seems like a weak fit
LexisNexus "instantID-Business" https://risk.lexisnexis.com/products/instantid-business - seems appropriate, wondering if they have an ancient tech stack
id.trulioo.com - seems appropriate, wondering if they have massive fixed fees every month vs. pay-by-the-drink (we might onboard a dozen businesses a month, we don't need a plan with four or five figure monthly charges)
alloy.com - every bank uses these guys, which I like. Again, concerned about pricing.
socure.com - I think Alloy resells them anyway.
If anyone can share recommendations, experiences, it would be greatly appreciated!","title":"Pay-by-the-drink US business identity verification providers","updated_at":"2024-09-20T12:35:52Z"},{"_highlightResult":{"author":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"jtayler"},"title":{"matchLevel":"none","matchedWords":[],"value":"TruAnon digital identity answers \u201cwho are you?\u201d"},"url":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"full","matchedWords":["socure"],"value":"https://news.crunchbase.com/news/venture-investment-identity-management-authentication-incode-transmit-socure-okta/"}},"_tags":["story","author_jtayler","story_29578497"],"author":"jtayler","created_at":"2021-12-16T14:33:53Z","created_at_i":1639665233,"num_comments":0,"objectID":"29578497","points":2,"story_id":29578497,"title":"TruAnon digital identity answers \u201cwho are 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I am with Boost Mobile. On Sunday night I received a text message that my PIN was changed. Within minutes I confirmed this to be true on my PC. I used the Boost application on my phone to change the PIN and received a confirmation text.
A few minute later I received a text message welcoming me to Metro PCS.
A few minute later I received emails to my business email that my account security information was deleted from my person email account. They used SMS authentication to my mobile number, that they now have control of to gain access.
A few minutes later I received an email there was an account recovery attempt on my coinbase.com account.
It took less than 30 minutes for these events to transpire.
I've spent about 15 hours trying to get my phone number and my email address back to my control.
I've accumulated a list of eight other people in the Boost Mobile Reddit.com forum where the exact same thing happened to them.
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When account settings were changed, Coinbase gave me a link to lock my account, Microsoft gave me a link to log in to my account, which I no longer have control of.
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I've accumulated a list of eight other people in the Boost Mobile Reddit.com forum where the exact same thing happened to them.
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