SPEAKER_00: i'm going to put something out there jacob this is going to be an a plus i'm going to predict it

SPEAKER_01: to be an a predicting an a plus okay here we go multi-on.ai the way it works is it's a chrome

SPEAKER_02: extension it's pretty invasive because you have to give it full control of your browser but it's

SPEAKER_05: super powerful and so what i'm able to do book a meeting tomorrow with jason at 2 p.m and what

SPEAKER_02: you're going to see it do it's going to kick off and uh you know it can read it to you and it's good

SPEAKER_08: it's good but like yes holy cow for people who are not watching the chrome extension has taken

SPEAKER_11: over the browser the inmates have taken over the asylum i've given up control of my browser and it's set up the meeting oh my lord yes that was incredible okay i see where this is going

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SPEAKER_11: discount on your next llc all right everybody it's monday that means my guy sunny madras back and we are going to do more ai demos this has been an extraordinary year sunny of people just releasing so much product at such a violent pace that here on this week in startups we said we're going to dedicate every monday kick off the week right with demos of the latest technology so you the audience you don't have to worry about keeping up to date with all this we've got our teams sunny's team at definitive my team here at launch we're looking for all the greatest demos and then we just show them here and we give them a letter grade this week in startups.com ai to see all the demos today

SPEAKER_00: we're going to hit our 100th demo so that means we've been through a hundred ai companies and you know that's pretty awesome right that also speaks to the pace of innovation happening that in you know relatively short amount of time we've been through 100 demos and i think we're gonna hit 200

SPEAKER_24: pretty quickly as well so it's very exciting yeah and we now have a google sheet and so if you go to

SPEAKER_11: thisweekinstartups.com ai we'll put a link there to both the playlist on youtube and a link to the spreadsheet of all the demos so you can see them in reverse chronological order and if you missed one you can either watch us do the demo you can click on the link but let's get right to it i like to

SPEAKER_26: have the time between when we start the show and get to the first demo be under with three minutes so

SPEAKER_00: let's get right to it okay all right so the first one i'm gonna just i'm gonna put something out there jacob this is gonna be an a plus i'm gonna predict it to be an a predicting an a plus okay yes i'm gonna predict it to be an a plus all right so great set of founders uh come with an incredible background the company is called multi-on and so on dot ai yeah and the way it works is it's a chrome

SPEAKER_02: extension it's pretty invasive because you have to give it full control of your browser but it's super

SPEAKER_00: powerful and so what i'm able to do i'm going to start here and say book a meeting uh tomorrow with

SPEAKER_05: jason at 2 p.m and what you're going to see it do it's going to kick off and uh you know it can read

SPEAKER_08: it to you and it's good it's good but like yes holy cow for people who are not watching the chrome

SPEAKER_11: extension has taken over the browser the inmates have taken over the asylum and it's popped up uh essentially a co-pilot opened up google calendar it knows how to click on google calendar and i've given up control of my browser and it's set up the meeting oh my lord yes that was incredible and

SPEAKER_33: that's not all it can do um this thing's gonna be dangerous oh is it about to trade crypto on your

SPEAKER_11: account i mean say buy some bitcoin yeah let's see what it does i'm not doing that why not what are

SPEAKER_37: you scared let's go tell it to buy some bitcoin let's see your coinbase balance uh is it you you could

SPEAKER_40: do uh you know write a tweet about uh this we uh about multi how about we just do this about multi-on

SPEAKER_43: right okay right let's wait about multi-on okay yes this could get dangerous yeah yeah

SPEAKER_44: yeah and this is where reg oh boy here we go

SPEAKER_37: whoa and right uh you know it didn't send it it queued it out yeah yeah it queued it up and then you

SPEAKER_46: know but right and i'll we'll give them some credit here right maybe we could they didn't fire it off

SPEAKER_15: right that was but that's it right yeah okay i see where this is going yeah i mean here's the crazy

SPEAKER_11: part if this was covertly put onto somebody's browser and the ai was there man you could be doing some really crazy stuff with this because you could just tell it caused chaos right yeah yeah this is where chat gpt4 claude and other services we've talked to sonny yes said we're not letting people go out on the open web and do stuff we are concerned that if you were to let ai a language model an ai agent if you let it go out onto the open web it could make mistakes it could do really bad damaging things to you it could also you know very quickly do great things and this is where i don't know if you saw the interview with rabbit jesse from rabbit r1 i had him on the pod the the handheld device yeah great that we got him good job for the producers but he's building these uh large what did he call it it's not about doing a large language model it's about doing a large

SPEAKER_60: action model i think is what he said and so this is what we're getting to now is large action models

SPEAKER_63: incredible yeah and so i'm doing just another one here and uh yeah it it's wild right so like yeah

SPEAKER_67: this is gonna get really good really fast so you tell it to go book a flight it goes to google flights

SPEAKER_68: it knows what google flights is holy cow yeah wait how do i download this oh i'm in firefox so maybe i

SPEAKER_00: need to be in chrome well you're in firefox and two you need to the link is in a notion which is in our ai um okay because it's still like in private beta so you have to kind of register get the link and do

SPEAKER_73: all that okay so they're just not letting everybody go on this because they too know yes this could get

SPEAKER_00: crazy and they don't want it to get for the folks watching it's just continuing its task of going and like booking you know picking what did you ask it to do just find me a business class flight you

SPEAKER_76: know tomorrow from san francisco to new york right okay and you can customize it such that you can

SPEAKER_00: tell it to use united airlines or things like that there's some customization you can do in their back end and so it is pretty wild uh what it's able to do and so now does it have any kind of controls

SPEAKER_11: on it and settings to not make a purchase or to make a purchase would it go and confirm this if your credit card was in there if you told it hey buy me the best ticket tomorrow in business class at the best price or have they told it don't hit the buy button yeah you know to be honest i haven't gone

SPEAKER_00: all the way through on an airline purchase but it it there is a lot of customizations you can do and you can create very custom workflows for your own um needs as well so um you know this is a really really high caliber team as well so i think they're going to bring all this functionality it's all the warnings you know basically you're going to if you give it access it basically can do anything it wants in your browser has access to everything but i think they're going to be able to make life really really easy for folks because they're just navigating on top of a browser you know web browser and so you you don't even have to really log in that's what we've been talking about right because you can just you can already be logged in on all the sites that you have and so the notion link

SPEAKER_76: the notion link to their downloads in our ai notion so you can pull it from there if you want

SPEAKER_60: to try it out and apparently um i was just searching for them but i guess they raised some

SPEAKER_90: money maybe already i don't know i think they just did they just did an announcement catalyst maybe

SPEAKER_91: congrats to general catalyst investing in it yeah oh yeah uh nico uh from general catalyst i guess uh invested in it so really great job congratulations to them it is an a plus a rare a plus here but

SPEAKER_95: it's a great hack because chrome extensions and a lot of like desktop browsers is where considered purchase or thoughtful work is done as opposed to your phone and on your phone you

SPEAKER_11: might research flights you may not consummate your travel you know a lot of people will you know consume or browse information on their phone but they may not make a purchase on their phone for something that's considered or if they want to put something on their calendar you know that might be something you do during the day with the full browser window your browser has all of your passwords your credit cards all that great stuff in it you're authenticated with all your tools you know so if you said hey make a new notion page or put this into coda or fire up my squarespace website now you've got a chrome extension with a bunch of users and if it learns over time let's say it just people learn uh you know squarespace they're making beautiful websites and squarespace you know allows certain behaviors you can say update my website change this page uh put some graphics on my page about christmas or the holidays or thanksgiving you know this could be a way for a service like squarespace or a service like coda or notion uh zendesk whatever it is to have an interface that mimics

SPEAKER_106: uh actual users behavior and so it's going to learn over time what you're doing

SPEAKER_107: and uh you know a lot of things are in your browser you might have your quickbooks in your browser for

SPEAKER_00: example this shortcuts a lot of stuff in the ai kind of integrated world and it really shows the power of the models today and the ability to get them to drive and this is where there is like one you know there's been a lot of thing about a regulation and fear this is where we're starting to approach some very powerful things and so it's good that there's proper companies that are funded that will be validated through their investors and everyone else and so a number of these will emerge and i will just suggest that like people that want to try these things make sure you're using them from like

SPEAKER_76: a trusted company that has like you know proper financial backing and things like that because

SPEAKER_11: yeah this could get dicey real quick um worst case scenario uh this could be communicating on your behalf uh in a way that you don't anticipate it could be making purchases or setting up meetings or deleting things on your computer sharing things on your computer you don't want shared yeah this could get dicey real quick and this is why people say there should be controls you can guarantee a bad actor with the same approach could do some seriously damaging things so yeah this is an a plus hands down uh in a plus and um i this does make you think perhaps the uh googles of the world uh chrome will

SPEAKER_114: have this built in as well so why not we we would think so right that's where you know we we want this

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SPEAKER_121: know this is like one of the rare instances where i'm going to actually join the discord because i

SPEAKER_91: want to just i want to lurk here and see what these lunatics at multi on it's called multi on yeah i think so i'm gonna i'm gonna lurk i'm gonna join the discord and lurk and see what these lunatics are

SPEAKER_10: up to in there because the inmates are running the asylum now man you give control of your browser

SPEAKER_47: to ai man this could get nutty real quick but think about the efficiency the flip side that's what i'm

SPEAKER_11: looking for yes i mean i you've been asking about this yes i've been asking for agents because i want to go out on the web and actually get stuff done i'm gsd and you know all these apps are like this little chat window and the chat window is not my interface you know what my interface is the browser this is a paradigm shifting concept am i going to use a gpt am i going to use an agent as a co-pilot in my browser or am i going to go into some dorky you know chat interface i don't

SPEAKER_00: have time to chat i'm busy and then you have to authorize right which look that's safer for you but you have to go through all that work and yeah pull up your passwords or do an oaf it runs everything

SPEAKER_08: i'm already authenticated my amazon's in here you have my i want to ask you questions hey tell me what i've spent on amazon and it knows go to orders and yeah give me a graph yeah uh multi-on think about that a graph of my weekly spending by category my monthly spending by category on amazon since i opened my account and it goes to the orders page it scrapes all that data and it gives me the charts you know how many iphone cases have i bought or what was the caught what are the coffee brands i've bought before and tell me the average price per pound like i know this sounds stupid but you know if you start thinking about what you do in your browser every day you know hey what was that a new store if this thing had my history what was the new story i read about you know great hotels in miami uh or go search for the top sushi restaurants in miami and then tell me which ones are on open

SPEAKER_11: table and then go see the check the availability that's something that actually could be done in

SPEAKER_135: your browser in a not too difficult way now if you wanted to do that in chat gpt or claude it'd be

SPEAKER_47: like i can't do that sorry or you'd have to wait for open table to create a plugin that had all that

SPEAKER_137: access and you know yeah this is n run time it's n run i love it a plus plus a plus plus multi-on good

David Friedberg: job how do i get in on this because i'm on their website and i can't download the crumb i got to sign up

SPEAKER_00: for the api or some nonsense so you know inside our notion we there's a link you'll see to their notion which has the download link to the chrome oh okay well we'll put that in our show notes as

SPEAKER_76: well so and you see it in the sample prompt just on the right oh the sample prompt okay here we go

SPEAKER_144: that's how you get to download there download multi-on got it okay i'm i'm i'm here for this

SPEAKER_135: i mean this is like something where i very rare instance where i want to get off the pod with you

SPEAKER_145: nothing personal install this and get to work because this is going to save everybody a ton of

SPEAKER_69: time there it is add to chrome and uh yep here i am i'm in and now i got to sign into so i need to

SPEAKER_148: sign up for my account yeah okay here we go i'm signing up right now uh and i'm scared to death but

SPEAKER_76: screw it it's going to do a flow i think it makes you verify your email and then you'll go through them and then it's going to take over your home page of your browser that's how it kind of triggers itself

SPEAKER_152: uh yeah this is pretty cool i gotta say this is like this is as good as it gets you know we always

SPEAKER_00: talk about wanting to be in the future this is this is about as close right as we're thinking about just automating our workflows in our existing workflows yes and this is a password you

SPEAKER_76: want to get right oh yeah make sure you turn it on in your chrome extensions you should be able

SPEAKER_47: to log in it's all in beta still so okay uh i love it all right what do we got next we started with an a plus i love it i gave it an a plus i gave it an a i i gave it a predicted i predicted

SPEAKER_00: an a plus pre-a plus yeah yeah pre-a plus okay good as it gets we're gonna add another theme to ai this year and this is an important one which is uh i'm gonna pull this up this one's called paid leave.ai okay this is like a good friend of mine rest master johnny she was a founder of girls who code and now she running a organization called moms first and so moms first has created for the state of new york an ai powered chatbot that basically helps uh you know folks figure out how to access these uh resources to help them um you know with paid leave uh whether it's uh financial or just other questions that may have different types of benefits and so it's uh like i said it's it's it's done really well it's just this is where you see the power of ai so it's like i'll just pick one of their sample questions here so folks i'm just on paid leave.ai that are listening i'm having a baby

SPEAKER_76: i don't know where to start and basically it's going to gather the information and you know tell you about you know the process to applying for paid leave how to do it and are you employed and

SPEAKER_159: you just basically work through this whole thing and you know where do you go for this kind of

SPEAKER_156: stuff and so i think one of the things that ai really is going to do for folks that have to

SPEAKER_00: interact with you know a lot of government bureaucracy which exists for this it's going to really simplify this down and so they've done an excellent an incredible job to leverage ai and you know just a chat and the beauty of this if you know i'll go back to the other page in a second and so it's just kind of walking through it's like i'm having a baby i know where to start it comes up so i'm currently employed and i've been for over a year that's great so since you've been there you're eligible for paid leave in new york that's new figure how you do it as a new parent you get 12

SPEAKER_164: weeks so a lot of people don't even know this for that 12 weeks this is the state of new york or is

SPEAKER_165: this like the child care credit i'm not sure who's paying for this is this your employer or whatever

SPEAKER_11: i mean this is great i think if you think about the jump between government agencies not being you know being a black box of information and then you know having uh customer support in here

SPEAKER_00: yeah so look at this i just asked i said paid leave in new york is funded through small payroll

SPEAKER_150: deductions from all eligible employees so while you're on your benefits will be paid by your

SPEAKER_02: employee's insurance carrier ah interesting this is like stuff that's it's happening it's all embedded

SPEAKER_00: in our you know hr payroll benefits and we don't know about it and then what i really thought was incredible in terms of what they did for an experience is uh you can ask the questions in different languages because there's a lot of people that you know maybe can't you know navigate through the ecosystem um yes yeah yeah i know you i mean you're in new york is the melting pot you know and

SPEAKER_11: people coming through ellis island or used to coming through ellis island and see the statue of liberty you might have somebody who's chinese somebody's french somebody who's japanese spanish whatever speaking and here you go boom and this is would a government agency take the time to have all of their information in 10 languages no ai will do that though immediately would they take the time to pick up the phone and answer your questions and walk you through stuff no they can't possibly afford that and this is where customer support is going to save time and save money and increase

SPEAKER_69: their offering yeah this is an a it's an a yeah i gave it an a yeah i mean it's going to change

SPEAKER_00: everything yeah and we need more of this we need it across the country every state should have

SPEAKER_02: something like this and every federal organization should have something like this but definitely we should push for all states that have this it helps the you know folks there okay you've seen sunday

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SPEAKER_26: about hallucination like is what if this doesn't get stuff right yeah which gives you bad advice how do you

SPEAKER_00: think about that right now that's where like you know technologies come in like rag which is called retrieval augmented generation where you ensure that you're not using training data and you can see here it's providing links that are related to the question you asked so that you kind of really is there a chance there's no hallucination here no but you can really minimize it especially if you

SPEAKER_11: kind of force it to be sure and so got it so it's being told hey answer the questions based on the pages on this website and give a link and a citation as opposed to just using the language model to guess the

SPEAKER_26: next word correct so this is a much more specific narrow set of information i love it i give it an a yeah it's great yeah awesome it's gonna change everything same here and it's like you know just

SPEAKER_00: these basic questions again can i take state paid leave and paid leave from work right yeah and it's

SPEAKER_76: like yeah you can combine that it's it's really really just a great great service let's hope everybody

SPEAKER_159: reaches it and uses it and sees our post and gets into it send it around please yeah please yeah

SPEAKER_194: awesome awesome okay next we got a strong start here for the hundredth uh demo i know we had to

SPEAKER_00: bring it all right you're going to really like this one so this one's called consensus and consensus is super interesting because they have their own website and they've been like a top three gpt app

SPEAKER_76: and what this does is you ask a question so let's just say is intermittent uh fasting uh healthy right

SPEAKER_00: okay and what it does is it looks through 200 million research papers finds the ones that reference it it gives you a summary up top and it says look i looked at 20 papers yeah you know 70 of them said yes 30 possibly none said no and it gives you like a summary across all papers um you can filter it by you know if you want to only look in recent years or study types or study details or specific journals you

SPEAKER_02: can imagine right yes and it just kind of answers questions that we all have around you know health

SPEAKER_117: related things through looking at 200 million uh research papers that they have incredible you know

SPEAKER_11: these research papers um are funded a lot of times by the government these like uh different publishers try to intercept them and put them behind paywalls and then people can't get access to them and also let's face it some of them are vetted really well other ones are not vetted and you need more sunlight on these you need more ability to sort through them and surface the important ones and so this is going to get better and better somewhere inside of these 200 million papers are the answers to a lot of life's questions or what are the next questions to answer or to ask rather and what study should be done next so you know if people start coming in here and talking about intermittent fasting and you might actually be able to figure out well what questions aren't answered right and you could send an ai into this back to like agents you can go to consensus and say hey what are the topics

SPEAKER_08: people are searching for most on this website what are the questions they have what studies should be funded next right and the ai could start leading society down the trail of listen obesity fasting diet these this is like the number one category the number two categories around you know cannabis use or you know anxiety whatever it is and you could actually start having it kind of inform what should be the way google trends you know and stuff like that inform stuff but hey here the consensus meter is showing that for diet these are the things that we don't have consensus on yet if we don't have consensus on these diet issues well that's a place to put more research and maybe more research dollars and so and then who should do the research like who would be the next best researcher to do something so what's the next research to do on diet or fasting and who should do it and what questions should they ask this is going to get sick because right now who does that it's just like random people are like what should i study next i don't know how studies are done or formed but this does seem like it could

SPEAKER_108: give a great path excellent top of the funnel for you know just the ecosystem of health and wellness

SPEAKER_00: and scientific research and in this world we live in where the internet is becoming populated with just

SPEAKER_76: a lot of opinion this ties it back into research which i think is really really important worth noting

SPEAKER_60: here aaron schwartz um who was part of reddit i think he was kind of considered like the third co-founder

SPEAKER_11: you know okay he if you remember was uh prosecuted by the feds for going into jstor uh archives of all this academic stuff putting it on a hard drive he kind of had hacked you know when i'm using hack like in lowercase hacked he didn't break into anything but uh and you know he was getting charged

SPEAKER_69: by the feds and he wound up tragically committing suicide um and he was like a really cool um kid i had met him once or twice um and he was just trying to get access to information and then the feds went after

SPEAKER_91: him for like computer breaking and entering and so just read up on the case of aaron schwartz uh s-w-a-r-t-z

SPEAKER_207: he was a really sweet kid it really makes me uh angry uh what they did to you you're not aware of that

SPEAKER_76: case or were you when you said it you you brought it up um but i i remembered but like i'm gonna look in more into it like i don't remember all the details but like this just happened within the last maybe

SPEAKER_135: five or seven years right it might have been back in like 2010 or something i don't know exactly but

SPEAKER_26: he was like a an activist kind of kid you know um and a hacker and he went and downloaded 2013 yeah

SPEAKER_91: sorry that was yeah in 2010 he used an ip address as part of the mit network and he began sending hundreds

SPEAKER_11: of pdf download requests per minute to the jstor website um and it slowed the site's performance

SPEAKER_91: um yada yada yada and he had done this uh with a computer that he had put in a storage closet or

SPEAKER_207: something to get around paywalls if i remember correctly and i mean he downloaded a bunch of stuff

SPEAKER_11: then he got arrested um and the secret service like went after this kid for wirefrog computer for you think about how scary that is yeah and then he was indicted these like federal prosecutors

SPEAKER_69: went after it was just classic case of overcharging and overzealous like insane prosecution of this kid and and he wound up committing suicide on january 11 2013 and then they dropped the charges these absolute scumbags uh yeah honestly like really this is who you're going after like a kid who just is doing what this ai is doing you know just a bunch of these pdfs and like he's not stealing it he was stealing like a bunch of studies i mean it's infuriating to me so yeah dedicate this one to

SPEAKER_121: aaron's memory of like just he's just trying to get knowledge off the internet and off of like the servers to like you know make things better you know yeah exactly uh this the who knows what this

SPEAKER_91: kid would have gone on to do so yeah anyway i give this an a it's amazing i give an a for amazing i

SPEAKER_11: don't know how good it is it might be a b plus maybe i give it a b plus i think if it added the features i'm talking i'm gonna give it a b actually i give it a b because i do think there's all these things that i mentioned that it could start doing like i want to see these projects uh be more ambitious

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SPEAKER_00: you know so i know you've become a big fan of cold plunge right oh well and it's like somewhat yeah is it

SPEAKER_02: healthy and you know what there's just not enough data in there now what this means some studies should happen and we could get that because a lot of people want to know plunging into cold water can

SPEAKER_100: provoke cardiac deceleration which can lead to sudden infant death syndrome so i guess they're talking

SPEAKER_91: about sids yeah be careful putting your children into a cold plunge but yeah the question is what does it do to an adult i can tell you what it does if it's too cold man i i got hypothermia i couldn't stop

SPEAKER_08: shaking it was nuts oh wow okay yeah the first time i did it i went into like 45 degree water nobody told me like what the rules are here i jump out after like 50 seconds and i'm like was really trying to

SPEAKER_11: push myself i try you have strong will so i'm like i can do this i can do anything and no sure enough

SPEAKER_135: my body starts shaking convulsing and i just jump into the infrared sauna to try to warm up and i'm in there sunny for two or three minutes and my my hands are still shaking i'm like what's going on here like oh this is why when people went to the water with the titanic they you're done in 90 seconds yeah

SPEAKER_11: yeah you got to be careful hypothermia you're done that's why they have those suits that people put on those yeah special suits if you have to ditch a boat or a plane you put on these like super warm

SPEAKER_144: suits before you jump in the water all right they have it folks i give it a b what do you give it sunny

SPEAKER_129: i'm gonna give it an a i i think look there's room to it what you said but i look i find the internet

SPEAKER_00: is very difficult to search on these days everything is like a combination of like seo optimized pages you don't really get to the scientific and there's a lot too many paywalls yeah exactly so popovers yeah and so this gets you right to what it is and i think there's room for improvement with new studies and and i think that will come but i'm a big fan of it i think they've done an incredible job okay let's keep going all right okay the next one is kind of like more i want to talk about like multiple things and so from there we can maybe branch up and pull one more up as well but this is something i wanted to highlight because just pace of development we've been talking about this just last week and the best way for me to kind of highlight that is just to pull up this tweet from barcy last week 160 models were released we're talking about doing the 100 demo right everything from this new ai model for de-blurring which you can see here google launched lumiere which is their image to video um you know we've seen these before yep um replace everything and so you know this is an excellent one which is like it can generate sound for you to match the video content

SPEAKER_247: oh wow um you know and you ever watch those people are walking across uh you know walking across the wood floor with yeah whatever it makes the sounds i got it you ever watch like those behind the scenes of

SPEAKER_22: hollywood movies and there's like these studios where people are like doing weird things to kind of

SPEAKER_11: recreate sound and so yes like if you want to do a broken bone in a fight they take celery sticks and they'll just break some celery sticks like when somebody gets punched to show their ribs are cracking or yeah if they're gonna walk across the floor they have a little piece of wood and then they just have in their hands like coconuts then and show them like using coconuts cut in half to go

SPEAKER_26: across the floor yeah i get it those they call those sound those sound engineers have a name but yeah foley in filmmaking foley is the reproduction of everyday sound effects that are added to film videos and other media f-o-l-e-y foley so this is a foley artist you don't need to have a foley artist

SPEAKER_257: anymore you just you just go straight to that's the end of their careers yep well or another job gone by ai

SPEAKER_39: or they will adapt which i think they will as well uh i don't know about this one if you play this scene

SPEAKER_11: of like a fight scene and ai perfectly puts in the sounds and it's coming from a library of sounds of previous fights and the person who is the director is saying you know what i want um a little more crunchy sounds when they make contact and uh i want like the breathing to be heavier when the person gets punched in the gut at 37 seconds in like that could save a lot of time and money i think this

SPEAKER_91: does replace the foley artist i mean they're union so i think it'd be hard to replace them but

SPEAKER_00: that was like just a kind of a segue into into the last demo for today okay and so the last demo for

SPEAKER_76: today and i really want to highlight something um and you know talk about um one of your really good

SPEAKER_00: friends okay um you know for a very long time elon has been very aggressively pushing for vision only a perception to the point where they you know they never put lidars on cars like the spinning things that we see on the self-driving vehicles and they've even started to remove the ultrasonics and what was released this week by tick tock was a a depth perception depth estimation algorithm okay basically can look at a video and look at and from the video it can infer distance oh and so and uh and so you know here's just this tweet i want to give ak some credit for it but then you know i had it pulled up here and i have one of my favorite jcal pictures yes and basically look you're standing somewhere and you know it's basically giving me depth right this kind of lines up right this the left part of the picture is closer to me then it's you you're standing in front of the background and then it goes into the background this is a game changer because if you think about what we've been trying to do with robotics what we've been trying to do with self-driving vehicles and now that these models are coming open source and it really kind of goes and not that elon needs validation but it validates elon's thinking of hey we as humans have eyes we don't have lidars we don't have all these other sensors we're able to do depth perception what that's how we should do it with with software and now we have a model that you can go and you can use you can see it in real life

SPEAKER_11: amazing so if you know the depth when you have a simple robot with a simple webcam on it when it goes to pick up the orange it knows the depth with a higher fidelity because of the algorithm done here

SPEAKER_189: correct correct and think about things like um cafe x right who's had to build an incredible

SPEAKER_00: hardware system but also an incredible software system to be able to make the coffees and the espressos and and basically make them available this will take what they've been doing and enable their software to be even more powerful because they've had to you know my guess is and it's very similar to the v12 release of fsd they removed 300 000 lines of c plus plus because they can replace it

SPEAKER_76: with um you know ai that can leverage the you know this type of technology so this is a tick tock release

SPEAKER_275: tick tock is releasing this to released yeah open source yeah exactly amazing how do you find these

SPEAKER_247: things because you know there's so many of these things being released constantly yeah how does one

SPEAKER_86: keep track of all this activity aside from listening to us you know i would say there's like kind of

SPEAKER_00: three main avenues for for me i monitor the popular projects on hugging face got it that is like sort of

SPEAKER_76: like a you know almost like a zeitgeist in its own way they you know you you can see things popping up

SPEAKER_00: and with products projects that are getting used the second thing is there's you know a few great you know folks on twitter now and twitter is the center x is the center of the universe for where people are publishing the know-how as well got it and last is there's archive right which is where the research papers get released got it and so prior to things becoming available even in hugging face the research papers are getting released and that's what's amazing about kind of open source and where we are in software is that everyone wants to share when they build something cool we're not right yeah you know very similar to like elon and the patents are like hey we'll just make them available because you know as humanity should to grow here so those are move faster for everybody if everybody shares a

SPEAKER_95: little bit then the products are going to get better so much faster and this depth stuff is great

SPEAKER_91: just releasing it publicly like this who knows how people are going to use this but it's it's certainly going to help um with stuff like self-driving uh or modeling and confidence to the

SPEAKER_00: ecosystem right like you know before this you kind of end up in this you know news cycle of people saying well you know elon's the only one that's doing it that way and and now you know someone else puts it out there people can use it people can build with it and it starts building confidence around it as well so that's the you know i think it's this is really good for the ecosystem fantastic

SPEAKER_26: all right listen uh i give that a b plus as well seems like a solid drop i will say there was one

SPEAKER_11: thing that was disturbing this week um and speaking of acts they had to come out with this people were creating deep fakes uh of taylor swift i believe and it kind of blew up oh yeah yeah yeah it's these are super inappropriate and it's kind of like essay you know like you really should not we have to come up with a society of you know some really strong rules around this and this is where like new technology they're making photorealistic images of this poor woman

SPEAKER_69: you know in compromised positions that i won't detail here but i i consider it assault like and

SPEAKER_26: as it's being done here and it just should not be done um yeah and i give a lot of credit to the safety team at x and twitter because they said we're banning these and you know a lot of people

SPEAKER_11: would be like oh well i can draw a picture of you know a famous person naked or whatever if i want to

SPEAKER_207: and you know people did that of donald trump and they'll do it of somebody they hate or whatever

SPEAKER_11: it's just not cool folks it's not cool um and just because you can draw it and just because you can make it like photorealistic now to the point at which maybe people can't tell the difference

SPEAKER_69: um there just needs to be a ramification for this stuff and i know it's technologically possible and

SPEAKER_11: yes you can come up with some argument that you could you know make a drawing uh and maybe that shouldn't be illegal but these are people and humans in the world they just deserve a little bit of

SPEAKER_91: a modicum of respect and uh privacy and it's just absolutely stunningly gross and i was just

SPEAKER_02: i want to say that i 100 agree with you and what i will say is you know the best way to

SPEAKER_00: for society to fight this is by having the big platforms use ai to determine that these things are fake and then not let them spread and so you know you can't stop people from creating them and they shouldn't but the platform should do a lot of work and like i said kudos to twitter to not letting those things uh or you know x not letting those things circulate there is a really excellent uh demo we'll do next week because i don't have it queued up but actually meta has released something i'll just

SPEAKER_76: i'll pull it up just to to talk about it but called llama guard and uh um and so my guard yeah and so

SPEAKER_00: it is their open source language model llama yeah and um this is uh just gonna pull it up here and we'll

SPEAKER_76: do a demo next week because i don't have one queued up for this but it's really powerful and

SPEAKER_00: excellent and what it is um just released in december and basically again you can get the paper and you can go download the model um but what it does is it basically can look at text that's generated or inputs that are going in and it can basically classify them to uh being inappropriate so this is using ai to fight inappropriate ai got it so if you ask it to do something it shouldn't do

SPEAKER_26: this is a way to for people who are responsible to like get a notification so if somebody was doing something in a chat room or on a social network that was inappropriate they would say hey maybe this is inappropriate uh and then at least alert somebody to it right i think that's great yeah i

SPEAKER_69: mean these deep fakes with this deep fake robocall we had um i don't know if you saw that with joe biden there was some deep fake robo call that came out as well yeah yeah like telling people yeah

SPEAKER_11: so you start putting together the calling technology that we were showcasing last week with voice and image and text and chrome extensions i mean you could with this chrome extension say make a hundred twitter handles i mean they have their own anti-bot technology but with a hundred twitter handles already made you could fire up a hundred browsers somebody could make an evil multi on chrome extension that just goes and harasses people or does psychological ops on a person if you said hey just harass this person everywhere they are online and write mean things every time they tweet you could you could

SPEAKER_91: really you know um i don't know it's like hurting somebody's feelings whatever but you could really run a psyops campaign on somebody right and you could do it at scale so yeah this is great that they're

SPEAKER_76: doing this um classification of stuff and basically you can tell it what's safe and unsafe we'll do a demo of this right but like what he can tell you is like someone saying how do you buy a tiger and you know basically telling you like these it's unsafe and it's categorization doesn't want people to be

SPEAKER_202: doing things like that right how to buy a tiger's unsafe yeah i don't know you don't want people you should you shouldn't be buying tigers in america now i want to search for how to buy a tiger

SPEAKER_69: no i mean it's i think in some places there are markets for that right like the middle east and yeah in america though in america you should not own a tiger like it's not a tiger king i saw that documentary all right listen another amazing episode thank you so much to my guy sandeep madra you can follow him on the twitter x dot com slash sandeep tweeze and a p at the end i'm at slash jason

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