SPEAKER_00: Coming up right now on This Week in Movies, we're talking about Red, Drive Angry 3D, Nowhere Boy, The Dilemma, Jackass 3D, and director Jack Schaefer will be in studio. Stay with us.

SPEAKER_07: Hi guys, welcome to This Week in the Movies, on the web at thisweekend.com, backslash movies, and on Twitter at TWIMovies, I'm Farrell Roth. Let's say hello to my new official co-host, Lon Harris.

SPEAKER_00: Hey everybody. Don't freak out everyone, Tinshi is still going to be a huge part of the show, he's going to be contributing the Hollywood headlines every week. I just needed a little man meat next to me in the studio, and Lon offered to join me.

SPEAKER_11: I fit the bill. I'm very meaty.

SPEAKER_01: You what? No. But I mean that in like, I mean like, I needed some testosterone.

SPEAKER_15: Right, yes. We need a real man here instead of off in Las Vegas.

SPEAKER_00: The truth is, we realized that there were some Skype issues, the technical difficulties were a little frustrating, so Lon's agreed to co-host with me. Tinshi will still be Skyping in for a segment every week, so we're super excited, nothing's really going to change that much. The gang's all here, we're all still together. Tonight we have a very cool show, we're reviewing really a gazillion movies, so we're just going to like fly through them. And director Jack Schaefer is going to be here. She directed this movie called Timer, which is a sci-fi love story, and I saw it and I was just really, it hit a note with me.

SPEAKER_22: It struck a chord. I think it was a really interesting concept. It's an indie movie, it reminded me a little bit of Cold Souls with Paul Giamatti.

SPEAKER_23: Yeah, we're going to check out the trailer. I haven't seen the film. It's a very intriguing trailer. It kind of has a Charlie Kaufman sort of vibe to it in the trailer. It's a very high concept premise.

SPEAKER_26: And she's a female director, and we love to support. It stars Emma Caulfield, Jo Beth Williams, Desmond Harrington, who, guess what, lives in my building. Crazy.

SPEAKER_01: And it's streaming free now on Netflix, so you guys can totally check it out, which is awesome.

SPEAKER_28: Is it really? It's free on Netflix?

SPEAKER_30: It is. It is. And, Lon, this is a little preview, but we have a special Halloween episode coming up,

SPEAKER_00: and this is a little precursor to what will take place. But Lon came up with the idea that we are going to torture each other for Halloween,

SPEAKER_32: so my assigned DVD viewing is Amanda Peet's A Lot Like Love.

SPEAKER_34: A Lot Like Love. I will be assigning a horror movie for Farrell to watch and review, and this is her version of giving me a horror movie.

SPEAKER_37: Yes, well, I am going to be equally horrified. All right, check the gate. Moving on, let's get into trailer talk. Let's.

SPEAKER_41: I think you're starting us out, yeah?

SPEAKER_40: I am. I was actually, I was so divided this week, because there were two amazing trailers I saw.

SPEAKER_23: The first one we're not going to show. It's called Wrecked. I encourage everyone to go check it out. I saw it on MTV's Movies blog, but I'm sure it's all over the web. It's called Wrecked. It's with Adrian Brody. Another fascinating high concept premise. I love premises like this. He awakes. He's got broken legs. He's at the bottom of a ravine in a crashed-up car. People are dead, and he's got to piece together how to survive and how he got there, because he has no memory. Great concept. Go check out that trailer. I was going to show that, but then yesterday I saw the trailer we're about to watch, and people who are familiar with the show are going to have no problem figuring out why I was so taken with this next trailer and had to share it. It's called Drive Angry 3D. 3D's in the name of the movie.

SPEAKER_45: I think it's called Shot in 3D, in case we're stupid enough not to know. Shot in 3D.

SPEAKER_46: It's Shot in 3D. It's called Drive Angry. It stars a little actor I'm a fan of named Nicolas Cage.

SPEAKER_48: No more prelude is necessary. Let's roll this trailer.

SPEAKER_50: God help me. Tell him I'm coming. You're too late. Hell's going to walk the dirt. Hell already is walking the earth.

SPEAKER_54: Good plotter.

SPEAKER_55: And God makes up with the wrong crowd.

SPEAKER_56: Now, he's got one last shot at redemption.

SPEAKER_58: That cult killed my daughter and took her baby. I am going to get her back. Thought you were dead. You hoped I was dead.

SPEAKER_56: But the devil's right-hand man wants to bring him back.

SPEAKER_60: I'm looking for someone. 6'1". Angry with attitude. If you don't tell me what I want to know.

SPEAKER_61: Miles of hard road. Now that's a hell of a ride.

SPEAKER_63: Just so you know, I don't pick up hitchhikers.

SPEAKER_64: I didn't have my thumb out.

SPEAKER_63: Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_64: We got a fight coming. That baby girl's all I got.

SPEAKER_66: My whole life has been nothing but waiting. And now it means something. I'm with you until the end. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_71: You can't stop me.

SPEAKER_75: Between now and then, I'm going to mess you up.

SPEAKER_80: What kind of gun is that?

SPEAKER_82: You think there's anybody in there?

SPEAKER_60: I won't see you again until you're 73. You I'll see in three months.

SPEAKER_84: What the hell does that mean?

SPEAKER_85: Drive angry, shot in three. Wouldn't want to be you when Satan finds out.

SPEAKER_86: What's he going to do? Not let me back in?

SPEAKER_87: Oh, it's like they made the movie just for me.

SPEAKER_37: It is. It is. And they did not make it for me. No. I love it's like from the director of My Bloody Valentine. I'm like, and what movie is that?

SPEAKER_23: No, My Bloody Valentine was that 3D. It's a remake of an 80s horror film that was out a few years ago.

SPEAKER_92: Is that the one with David Boreans?

SPEAKER_23: I don't know. He's not in that, I don't think. It's like the evil miner comes back to the town and is stalking all the teenage kids.

SPEAKER_40: I mean, it's actually above average for that kind of a slasher film. And the 3D was used pretty well in it.

SPEAKER_23: But this is just, I mean, you just combine so many things that I love. And it's just so, we were saying while we were watching it, it's so gleefully absurd. I mean, that's the thing I sort of love about it. It's just the plot, in case you couldn't piece it together. Nicolas Cage plays a character named Milton, of course, who has escaped from hell. Well, he's got to stop the cult that murdered his daughter from sacrificing her baby. So he's undead. He's going to save his grandchild from this evil, murderous cult. William Fichtner, as you can see, plays an agent of Satan.

SPEAKER_40: The whole thing was shot in 3D. Where do I sign up? That's my only question after seeing this.

SPEAKER_01: And you're forgetting the hotness of Amber Heard. And Amber Heard, yeah. She, I would make out with her. She is, she should be a huge star.

SPEAKER_39: Because she is sexy. She's kind of funny. She's the all-American girl. Why has she not broken out?

SPEAKER_98: Yeah, she's been solid and funny and attractive in several movies now.

SPEAKER_40: Pineapple Express, the Stepfather remake, which I didn't love. But she was, you know, looking in a bikini in it. It does seem like she's always sort of on the verge of being the next big thing.

SPEAKER_32: I don't know if this is the film that's going to do it for her, though.

SPEAKER_103: Who can say?

SPEAKER_32: I know where you will be opening weekend.

SPEAKER_103: Oh, my God. I can't wait to see it.

SPEAKER_32: Do we know when it comes out?

SPEAKER_103: You know, it's sometime in 2011. I don't know if they've settled on a date yet. But we're looking ahead to that one.

SPEAKER_04: Nice. Well, looking ahead, I'm going to talk about a movie called The Dilemma, which is the upcoming Vince Vaughn movie.

SPEAKER_00: It's about two best friends played by Vince Vaughn and Kevin James. One is faced with a dilemma when he finds out that his best friend's wife is cheating on him. It co-stars Jennifer Connelly and Winona Ryder.

SPEAKER_37: Reappearing again. It's directed by Ron Howard, which shocked me. Let's take a look.

SPEAKER_108: Great moments are born from great opportunity. And that's what you have here today, Nick.

SPEAKER_110: That's what you've earned here today. One meeting. What are you doing? You're giving me the, really? The Kurt Russell speech from the movie Miracle? It's applicable to what we're doing. I mean, it's not going to come up with something better than that. Who are we?

SPEAKER_112: B&B engine design.

SPEAKER_114: Nick, start your engine.

SPEAKER_119: That motor in that car, when it started vibrating. I'm sorry? If I was sitting on the hood of that car and the way it was shaking. Ryan, Ryan. Cheers.

SPEAKER_122: We got the deal. When it comes to couples, they're my hero.

SPEAKER_126: Honey, you hear that? Ronnie just told Beth I'm his hero. Come on, buddy. Every kid wants to dance with his hero. Okay, this is completely out of context.

SPEAKER_132: Awesome.

SPEAKER_134: I just saw my best friend's wife with another man.

SPEAKER_135: You've got to tell him.

SPEAKER_137: It's guy code, man. Hey, Ronnie. Where are you? I'm doing all different kinds of things now.

SPEAKER_32: So, if the movie sounds familiar, it's been discussed a lot recently because Anderson Cooper went on to Ellen DeGeneres' show and talked about how he found it very offensive that Vince Vaughn's character uses the word gay. He was describing electric cars.

SPEAKER_103: Let's face it. Electric cars are gay. And, you know.

SPEAKER_37: And Anderson Cooper said that he was offended by it and then there was a whole lot of hoopla about it.

SPEAKER_07: Vince Vaughn spoke out towards the end of the week and said, you know, listen, I obviously didn't mean to offend anyone, but this is comedy.

SPEAKER_00: And when we start, you know, separating what we can and can't say, we're making a bigger deal of it.

SPEAKER_37: We're actually feeding into the problem and we're making it bigger. And I have to say I sort of agree with him.

SPEAKER_40: Yeah, but I think you can get away with stuff like that if it's funny. And this is not funny.

SPEAKER_37: But this is such a sort of a harmless use of it, I thought, to say, like, those cars are gay. He's not referring to a person. He's not referring to a celebrity.

SPEAKER_00: I mean, here's the thing. Is this going to – is this the best thing that could have happened for the studio because it creates an awareness about the movie? Or is it killing it before it's even gotten a shot because now it's the movie with the gay comment in it? I mean, Universal has taken this part out of the trailer. People are – they have not said whether or not they've taken it out of the movie. I guarantee you they will. But I feel like, you know, the old adage is, you know, any press is good press. I don't think this is really going to hurt it. I think, if anything, it just made people aware of the fact that this movie exists.

SPEAKER_147: I think it's more shocking that Ron Howard, who could make any script, any movie he wants, is making what looks to be such an obvious turd.

SPEAKER_150: Well, with Queen Latifah, like, ooh, I want to sit on the vibrations.

SPEAKER_26: I know. I was surprised, but here's two reasons that I would want to see it. I don't really care about the gay comment at all.

SPEAKER_00: It doesn't influence my personal movie choice in whether or not I would go see it. But I would see it because A, Ron Howard, B, Jennifer Connelly. And I just think this is a very smart thing. When a director is making a guy-buddy film, your audience is going to be guys. And if you want to get girls to go, you cast, you know, co-stars that girls like to go see. And Winona Ryder and Jennifer Connelly, those are the reasons I would go see this movie. I think that was a smart choice on Ron Howard's part. And I think if he's directing it, granted, I agree, the script looks pretty stupid. But he doesn't really make bad movies, so I think that this will be better.

SPEAKER_153: But he doesn't make really good movies. He makes aggressively mediocre movies.

SPEAKER_154: Didn't he make Apollo 13?

SPEAKER_155: Yeah, Apollo 13's pretty good. I mean, if you go back into the back catalogs of the early Ron Howard, I mean, you could say Parenthood has its moments.

SPEAKER_103: But anymore, I mean, when's the last time he made, like, a really memorable, like, Cinderella Man is terrible. Like, Frost Nixon was okay.

SPEAKER_158: Frost Nixon was very good.

SPEAKER_160: He just makes these middle-of-the-road, very safe. It's like he's purposefully trying to please everybody. But this is different from his style.

SPEAKER_162: He does bigger Oscar-y type movies. This is a sort of broad comedy. So I'm curious.

SPEAKER_39: And here's the thing I wonder.

SPEAKER_00: I, in high school, got the Richie Cunningham Award in my yearbook.

SPEAKER_90: And I have, to this day, I know it's an insult. I know it was not meant in a good way. But I've never gotten it.

SPEAKER_167: He's straight. He's the straight-laced. He's the good kid. He's the preppy. That's what that is.

SPEAKER_39: So I guess I'm the female version of that. Preppy.

SPEAKER_142: I don't know how preppy. Richie Cunningham is the ultimate preppy.

SPEAKER_39: All right. Well, eh. All right. A little piece of information for you. So there you go. There you go. All right. Let's move on because we have so many movies to talk about. We've got a ton.

SPEAKER_07: We've got to keep tracking. Movies that are in theaters. Take it away.

SPEAKER_34: So I saw Red this weekend, which I guess is not doing that well. Directed by Robert...

SPEAKER_171: Came in number two. Yeah. That's good. It's okay.

SPEAKER_23: Directed by Robert Schwenke. It's based on a comic by Warren Ellis and Cully Hamner. Red, the title, refers to Retired, Extremely Dangerous, and the setup is it's about a bunch of retired CIA agents who are pulled back in. All of a sudden, there's these sort of hit squad that's gunning for them, and they have

SPEAKER_103: to figure out why they're being sort of attacked after all these years, and they have to kind of go back and use all of the CIA training that they had used during their careers. It very much reminded me of something like Get Shorty.

SPEAKER_23: It's almost trying for that kind of a vibe of it's comic, but it's also got some action, some caper kind of elements, and just how it just moves so fast. You're constantly pinging between new characters, over-the-top setups, violent shootouts, but all played for sort of a fun comedic effect. Get Shorty's better. Get Shorty's like sort of a tighter movie.

SPEAKER_103: The characters are better developed. It's more funny, but this was still, I mean, this is, it's very entertaining. It's almost like if Get Shorty were like a cartoon instead of more like a real sort of

SPEAKER_40: movie. The one big flaw is the action itself. It sort of sucks. There's not a ton of it, but it's very sort of choppy. You can tell that this is a guy who, Schwenke, who previously did, I had a list here of some of the other movies he's worked on. Yeah, he's not exactly like Michael Mann.

SPEAKER_23: He kind of, he kind of just sort of throws some action scenes together. There's, there's a bunch of CG in it that's not at all realistic, and I can't tell if it was designed to be sort of so larger than life. But for example, there's a shot where there's a car like spinning out of control, and then Bruce Willis steps out of it and just narrowly misses the car as it swings around, and it just looks bogus.

SPEAKER_40: Like, I guess it's supposed to look kind of silly, but it reminded me of that movie Swordfish. I don't know if you remember that one from, like, 2001, where the action is just so silly

SPEAKER_23: and over the top that you stop taking it seriously at all, and it just becomes, like, fast-moving images. Having said that, most of the movie is aware that it's not a great action movie and is just trying for comedy, and it's a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_103: It's got a huge cast. Morgan Freeman's in it. Helen Mirren's in it. James Remar is in it. Julie McMahon from Nip Tuck is in it. Like, tons of these people. And John Malkovich, who completely steals every scene and is hilarious and reminds you why he basically only pivots from very serious foreign films to American comedies.

SPEAKER_40: Like, that's sort of where he's found his place in American films, and it really works, and

SPEAKER_15: he's hilarious, and you kind of miss him whenever he's not on screen. So, you know, a slightly above average review.

SPEAKER_175: Are we looking at a clip from it?

SPEAKER_179: Yeah, we have a clip. Let's take a look.

SPEAKER_181: Tell me everything you know. Some thumpsucker tagged him red. Red? Retired? Extremely dangerous.

SPEAKER_183: Yeah. Hey, don't make him like that anymore.

SPEAKER_185: We're going to break into the CIA and find out who's trying to kill us.

SPEAKER_188: We're getting a band-backed together. I put a few things away. Just in case.

SPEAKER_187: I am excited.

SPEAKER_191: What do you suppose the punishment is for what we're doing here?

SPEAKER_193: Death. Awesome.

SPEAKER_194: I thought it might be nice to have a bit of girl time together.

SPEAKER_196: You can't touch me. Of course we can.

SPEAKER_23: Yeah, I forgot about Richard Dreyfuss, who's also with us. So, it's a great cast, and they're all obviously having a lot of fun with it. And, you know, it does a lot of things right. Silly costumes, goofy setups, and like I said, the pace is just nonstop.

SPEAKER_103: You sit down, you're sucked in immediately, and then before you know it, you blink and the movie's over.

SPEAKER_200: So, there's a lot to be said for that, I think.

SPEAKER_26: I feel like it was a very, I agree, I think the cast was very interesting.

SPEAKER_00: Mary Louise Parker was definitely a departure in terms of a choice, and she was great. I just got exhausted watching this movie. I was in it in the beginning, and then I was like, all right, just end already. I just felt like it went on and on, and it became more, like you said, like a swordfish. And I really was on board in the beginning, and I just thought, ultimately, the script was not very funny. I agree, the action sequences were not that great. And I didn't, I was having fun, but then I think I stopped having fun because I just felt like the movie never ended. It just felt like it was too long, and I didn't, I felt like maybe I wanted a flashback to sort of see how they all got to know each other or something like that. I didn't really feel like the bond of how they all got to where they were in the whole plot. I wish I'd actually seen what happened in Cambo.

SPEAKER_40: It's just so focused on just forward momentum that, yeah, it really doesn't even stop to establish who these people are, how they know each other. There's a lot of connective tissue that doesn't really even get covered. It's just very forward momentum, like, oh, and then this, and then this, and then they're flying here, and they're going there. And it's got a pretty clever, like, I like the bit with the postcards where you see these postcards come to life, and then it blends into the sort of environment, so you always know where you're going next. It's pretty well done. The director, I pulled it up, he did Flight Plan, and he did The Time Traveler's Wife. So not a ton of action in there, and I think you can really tell he was maybe trying to spread his wings on this a little bit, and he's much better working with actors and comedy

SPEAKER_15: than he is with the big pyrotechnic explosion type stuff.

SPEAKER_37: But good to break out of your comfort zone a little bit. And it's certainly fun for a while.

SPEAKER_147: Like I said, I was very entertained by it.

SPEAKER_103: I think that's what it comes down to. If you like the genre, if you like spy kind of stuff, if you like big ensemble comedies and these actors, you'd probably enjoy it.

SPEAKER_00: And like you said, the score was, I got annoyed by it, but the score is very, gets shorty. It's very jazzy and upbeat. So even though there are serious, violent things happening because the music is this kind of quirky, funny music, you're constantly feeling like, I'm in a comedy. I'm in a comedy. They keep things light, for sure. All right, well, I want to talk about Nowhere Boy, which is the biopic about John Lennon's pre-Beatle teenage years. And it chronicles the start of his life as a musician and how he met Paul McCartney and the dominant women in his life being his aunt and his mother and how they affected his upbringing and who he became. It's directed by Sam Taylor Wood. It stars Kick-Ass star Erin Johnson. And Sam Taylor Wood is a, this is her first feature, and she's a video artist and photographer. And it also co-stars Kristen Scott Thomas.

SPEAKER_01: Very interesting movie. Let's take a look.

SPEAKER_217: You're being a children.

SPEAKER_224: She'll hurt you, you know that.

SPEAKER_225: Your boyfriend wouldn't be happy now, would he?

SPEAKER_228: He's not your boyfriend. What is he then? He's my cousin. Where are you just going?

SPEAKER_229: For a quick chat.

SPEAKER_231: I'll do anything for you.

SPEAKER_230: At the moment, you're going nowhere.

SPEAKER_236: There's nowhere for the geniuses, sir. So they probably do belong there.

SPEAKER_237: I'm going to start a rock and roll group.

SPEAKER_238: You've been picked to be in my band. We don't know how to play. You don't have to know. What's important is I've chosen you. I'm John. Oh.

SPEAKER_26: That, at the end of the clip, that's Paul McCartney playing against John Lennon.

SPEAKER_00: Here's the thing that is most shocking about this movie. Well, a few things. But I can't believe this is her first feature. This is a very, very well-made movie. It covers a very unique period of time in John Lennon's life. You constantly forget you're watching this movie, and this is John Lennon. And the other thing is that I go to a movie about John Lennon. I assume I'm going to hear a lot of Beatles music. There is relatively no Beatles music in it. It is all Elvis Presley music because that is the musician that he was influenced by. And according to the film, John Lennon was really so taken with Elvis, not particularly because of his musical talents, but because the effect that he saw that Elvis had on women. He goes to a movie, he sees all of these girls freaking out when Elvis is on screen, and he is somebody that is craving attention and to fit in and is a little bit of a ladies' man. So he, right after that film, decides he picks up a banjo and he starts learning to play that, and that his introduction into music was really because he wanted to be like Elvis, and therefore there is a lot of Elvis music in it. But the women in his life are his aunt and his mother. I don't want to spoil the plot because it really is the driving force of the film as to why is he being raised by his aunt when his mother lives down the street. And I'm not going to spoil that, but it's a very interesting reason. And he goes to visit his real mother in secret, and they have a very, very nice relationship. And I would be very surprised if this actress doesn't get a Best Supporting Actress nomination. Her name is Anne-Marie Duff. She's actually married in real life to actor James McAvoy, and she's excellent in it. Kristen Scott Thomas plays his aunt. And he met Paul McCartney when he was 17 years old and Paul McCartney was 15 years old, which I did not know. And Paul McCartney has seen the film, and he apparently told the director that he liked it. The only scene he had a problem with was there's a scene where John Lennon punches Paul McCartney and he falls down. And apparently that did not happen. The story on the making of this movie is that Aaron Johnson is 19 years old. He is engaged to the director, Sam Taylor Wood, who is 43. And she was previously married to this guy, Jay Jopling, who dated Lily Allen for a hot minute last year. They were married for 11 years. Not only is she so much older than him, this woman has survived cancer two times. She had cancer twice before she was 35 years old. And they had a baby together over the summer. And there's a very interesting Vanity Fair article about her, their relationship and everything, if you're interested in it. But I thought this whole thing was shocking, particularly because when the film came out and before this kick-ass came out and Aaron Johnson was doing all the talk shows, and that's when I became aware of him and I found out this whole thing, I think they kept this on the DL because I don't think they liked the fact that he's 19 years old.

SPEAKER_148: I mean, the guy can't even drink and they have a baby together. But they seem very happy. He doesn't look like John Lennon.

SPEAKER_00: Well, she said that in casting it, she didn't. She saw a lot of people and she felt ultimately it didn't. She said she saw a lot of people that had the glasses and the big nose, but she didn't want – it had to be the essence. And the guy that plays a young Paul McCartney doesn't particularly look like him either.

SPEAKER_160: But does he look – did they meet when they were making the movie or did she pick him after they were already dating?

SPEAKER_252: No, she cast him in the movie. They started dating after he was in the movie.

SPEAKER_253: It's just – I mean, I haven't seen the film. He's 19. She's 43.

SPEAKER_48: I haven't seen the film, but it does seem like him not looking like John Lennon would be in – I mean, maybe that's why you were forgetting that it's a movie about John Lennon.

SPEAKER_01: Perhaps. And also, it's his teenage years. I mean, he does wear glasses. I have to say, I kind of liked it.

SPEAKER_00: I was less interested in how much he looked like John Lennon. Again, I didn't really grow up with the Beatles, so I didn't care that much that he didn't look like him. And in a way, it was nice to get lost in the story and not be so aware of it. And what's fascinating is this whole relationship with the aunt and why is he being raised by the aunt? Why does the mother live down the street? And the music is great. And let me just say props to the production designer. The color palette in this movie, we're talking red crimson lipstick on, you know, Kristen Scott Thomas. Then that matches her cardigan, which is then being played off by the wallpaper, and there's a print in the background, and throw pillows on a couch that also have that same crimson red. This is scene after scene. Everything is so beautifully shot and detailed. It looks a lot like an older Woody Allen movie. If anyone she stole from, I thought it was that. I think it's very enjoyable. I was interested in the movie less because of John Lennon, but because I thought it was an interesting story. A side note is I quickly saw Conviction as well. This is the Hilary Swank movie with Sam Rockwell. It's based on the true story of Betty Ann Waters, who spent 18 years trying to get her brother out of jail for being wrongly convicted of murder. She had to get her GED, go back to college, then go to law school, all to fight to get her brother out of jail. If you're a Sam Rockwell fan, you will like it. He ages in prison 18 years, and it's so well done. I'm not a Hilary Swank fan at all, but I'm telling you, the woman, she fully commits to these roles, and she's very good in it. And I actually got to interview her and do the red carpet for the movie, and Juliette Lewis steals the movie. She's in two scenes, and I said, were you intimidated to work with an Oscar winner, Hilary Swank? And she said, no, I was intimidated by my scenes because they're so intense. And she has this one scene. I don't know what they did to her teeth. She looks like I've never seen anyone look. She's the comic relief in it. She has this crazy emotional scene, and people went crazy in the audience for her. She was so good. And so I think it's a little bit of a lifetime movie, yes, in terms of the concept. The other thing they left out of the movie is that after fighting for 18 years and getting her poor brother out, the guy died six months later after he got out in an accident. You can't put that.

SPEAKER_258: I mean, you think it would be just too much of a downer at the end of the movie? Yeah, well, if the whole movie's about getting him out.

SPEAKER_23: I know. And that would be so deflating. It would be like when you're watching Intervention. You ever watch that show? Yes. And you watch the whole show. Right. And then they finally, it goes into rehab, and it's happy.

SPEAKER_40: And they'd be like, John checked out of rehab two weeks later and is on smack again. Isn't that what they say?

SPEAKER_265: Isn't that what they do say?

SPEAKER_34: They do it, but you can't do that in a move. People in Venice in two hours. They would be crushed. You can do it when they're watching A&E.

SPEAKER_37: I like movies where you're sitting in the theater, and as you're watching, you're applying it to your own life.

SPEAKER_00: And what I started to think, I have a brother, and you start to think, how far would you go? Would you give up your whole life? I mean, she had 18 years of schooling. She had two little kids to raise.

SPEAKER_01: Would I do that for my brother? And I thought, I would, because I love him. Like, I would do that. I don't know if I'm a brother.

SPEAKER_268: You met my brother. I met your brother.

SPEAKER_37: He's not going to get himself into any trouble. But we also have a new segment, another review.

SPEAKER_04: Yes. And it's not from either of us.

SPEAKER_23: It's a guest review. A guy named Chase Nunes, who's a fan of the show and does his own podcast as well, which he's going to tell you about. He actually contacted me on Twitter and said he had seen Jack S3D. Did we need a review? I had not seen it this weekend, so I said, sure. So he sent it in. And so we're going to throw that, and then we'll talk about maybe getting some more guest reviews in. So let's take it away, Chase.

SPEAKER_272: Hey, Lon and the gang there at This Week in Movies. This is Chase Nunes from geekgamerradio.com bringing you a review of Jackass in 3D. Well, actually, Jackass 3 in 3D, but who gives? Anyway, it's time to put on your glasses. So let's talk about the movie. Now, nah, forget the glasses. Let's talk about the movie. Now, the movie brings back all your favorites, Johnny Knoxville, Steve-O, everybody. Wee Man from the original Jackass, Jackass 2 movies, as well as the program that you saw on MTV. Believe it or not, it's 10 years old. But anyway, this movie brings back the similar antics that you've grown to love, where, you know, they tend to hurt each other or pee on each other or throw bodily waste at each other. However, it's Jackass. I would say this about the movie. First off, really no reason to see it in 3D. While there are some really neat camera tricks and a lot of neat things, really, 3D isn't used that much in the movie except in the opening and in the ending sequences. But really, you're not getting your money's worth out of it. So save your money, and if you really need to go see this movie, go see it in standard 2D. Secondly, I kind of left, you know, pulled away, thinking, well, you know, it wasn't as good maybe as Jackass 2. I think Jackass 2 had a lot more, you know, antics and stunts and actually some really cool parts of the movie. I felt that Jackass 3D was kind of dialed back a bit. While, yes, there are some very hardcore, nasty parts of the movie, I think when you compare it to Jackass 2 and even the original Jackass, there's really no comparison. And I think that unless you're a really diehard Johnny Knoxville, Wee Man, Preston Lacey kind of fan, you could probably wait to see this movie at home, on your couch, with your buds and your pals with some beers and watching it. And you know what? I would kind of look at it as a throw-up factor. While there were some really nasty parts of the movie, it didn't really make me want to throw up. So anyway, I would recommend this movie to friends and, you know, hanging out with and watching it at home. But save your money, spend it at home, watch it at home when it comes out on Blu-ray. And then you'll get all that nastiness in your own living room.

SPEAKER_276: Reporting for this week in movies, my name is Chase Nunes from GeekGamerRadio.com. You guys have a great one. See ya.

SPEAKER_277: He's so cute! Thank you to Chase. He's adorable.

SPEAKER_23: Welcome to Chase Nunes from GeekGamerRadio.com. You can go check out more of his stuff. We like this so much. I mean, I got this in the other night. I was watching it. It's like, this guy does a bang-up job. I didn't have to see this movie this weekend because Chase got to it.

SPEAKER_284: And apparently we made a good choice. Apparently. I'm still going to see it. Who am I kidding? I'm like stripping.

SPEAKER_23: But anyway, so we want to do more of this. So if you're out there, if you have a video camera and a microphone and you want to make a video of yourself reviewing a new movie, preferably it should be from that week because that's when we review movies, please let me know. Hit me up on Twitter at LONS, lonatthisweekend.com. You can email me. Let me know you want to make a video for us and we'll start putting them in the show.

SPEAKER_103: And they should be short, right? Under three minutes. Good point. Yeah, it should be no more than three minutes because we don't want to bog down the show. This is a juggernaut.

SPEAKER_23: We're trucking forward. So definitely send it along.

SPEAKER_144: We'd love to keep doing this. And I think maybe once a month we'll pick the favorite review that we get in for the public. We'll give you a little prize.

SPEAKER_04: Feel free to dress up in costumes and, yeah, make it fun. I dress up every week.

SPEAKER_01: You guys can, too. Is this dressing up? I thought this was your normal attire.

SPEAKER_37: I was in sweatpants. I am like, I am suffering from the flu.

SPEAKER_07: So, yeah, this to me was effort tonight. I also am surprised that Jackass made 50 freaking million dollars this weekend.

SPEAKER_23: Well, I think one thing Chase didn't mention, like, I think, you know, he was saying, ah, it's not really much in 3D. You don't have to worry about it in 3D. I think more than the 3D, the reason everybody wants to see the Jackass movies, it feels like an event.

SPEAKER_296: It feels communal. You laugh more at these goofy antics and stunts when you're with a room full of people. You know Borat was the same way. When you watch Borat at home by yourself.

SPEAKER_298: It's not so funny.

SPEAKER_23: Well, it's funny. He's very clever. But it's not huge like it is in a theater. I mean, when you're in a crowded theater and they do that naked wrestling and he's running through the hotel naked,

SPEAKER_40: it's fall down hilarious. I mean, people are, like, crying and rolling around. And then you see it at home and you're like, oh, it's kind of funny. I think Jackass is the same way.

SPEAKER_252: I was shocked that he said it didn't matter that it was in 3D. I thought that was really the whole awesomeness part of it.

SPEAKER_40: That's probably a gimmick. It's the grossness. It's the stunts. It's the outrageousness of it.

SPEAKER_23: And I feel like that's the sort of thing you want to, if you're going to see it at all, you go opening weekend to a packed house. You see it with that group.

SPEAKER_15: After that, it kind of, the expiration date.

SPEAKER_00: Are we close to being able to see movies at home on DVD with 3D glasses?

SPEAKER_37: So if you miss it in theaters, because I was homesick last night, I watched How to Train Your Dragon in 3D.

SPEAKER_00: And I was, I mean, it was cute, but I thought, God, I bet this will look great in 3D. But what would they do? Would they send those out in the mail with your Netflix glasses?

SPEAKER_23: Right now there's 3D TVs. So you can, 3D, 3D TV technology is around. And it's expensive right now, just like any other thing, like HD TVs when they first came out were super expensive. And now it's pretty reasonable, and most TVs you're going to get are HD.

SPEAKER_307: But if I got the movie and I don't have their 3D TV, would it play and be all blurry then?

SPEAKER_15: No, you'll have, you know, certain discs will have 3D or you'll have the option to watch it in 3D or not. That's coming. I would say within five years it's going to be pretty regular for you to go to somebody's house and they'll have a 3D TV. Hmm.

SPEAKER_289: All right. On the way. Should we bring Tinchy in? Let's bring in Tinchy. Hi, Tinchy. Hey there.

SPEAKER_46: Let's run a little introduction, right? What's up, guys? Yeah. Hollywood headlines. Let's run it. No graphic?

SPEAKER_315: No graphic.

SPEAKER_317: We'll make a special.

SPEAKER_319: We're going to make a special one just for you, Tinchy. So you come in with lots of fanfare.

SPEAKER_320: Can it be in 3D?

SPEAKER_323: It will be in 3D. Oh, my God. So, yeah, actually, talking about 3D and Jackass, like you guys were talking about, Jackass was number one in box office this weekend. It actually made $50 million and holds the biggest single-day record for nonfiction films with $21 million. Yes. It nearly doubled the previous record holder, which was Jackass number two, which took in $11 million in its opening day. And just for a point of comparison, as far as documentaries, Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9-11 in 2004 grossed 23.92. And Michael Jackson's This Is It took in 23.24.

SPEAKER_330: How embarrassing for us as a culture.

SPEAKER_331: I know. I'm horrified. It's just awful. I'm horrified by this.

SPEAKER_34: Our top documentaries of all time are guys.

SPEAKER_37: And how little do I know, I'm like on this show and this week, I'm like, who would go see that movie? Literally. Like, who?

SPEAKER_00: I mean, I thought a few teenage boys. But, God. I think it's repeat viewing, like you said. They were interviewing people on the news, and they'd been there three times already for the weekend.

SPEAKER_337: Yeah, it's tough.

SPEAKER_323: That's insane. I know. No one will go with me, so that's why I haven't seen it yet. So, I don't know. Maybe I'll hold myself up one day in the theater. I'm going to drive out to Vegas. We're going to do it this week. Let's do it. Dude, seriously, I can't pay anybody to go with me. It sucks.

SPEAKER_341: Have a mandate. Take it away.

SPEAKER_323: Sexy. Okay, so second story. The Hobbit has finally been greenlit, or has it? According to therap.com, The Hobbit is now greenlit and will begin principal photography in February 2011. MGM, Warner Brothers, and New Line have confirmed. The Wrap reported exclusively on Friday that Peter Jackson will direct the two-part film. He was quoted as saying, exploring Tolkien's Middle Earth goes way beyond a normal filmmaking experience. It's an immersive journey, and we're looking forward to reentering this wondrous world with Gandalf and Bilbo. But, the LA Times says that MGM and Warner have agreed to move forward in February, but that the official greenlit hasn't been announced because of lingering labor issues surrounding the film. Jackson is already on board to write and produce The Hobbit, but the financial sort of turmoil at MGM has turned the project into one of the most torturous in Hollywood history. Sets have already been built in New Zealand, and actors such as Sir Ian McKellen have been on hold for months. So, hopefully we'll see that role into production. Speaking of another film coming into production with a well-known director, Sam Raimi's next film is to be called Oz, The Great and Powerful. It was officially confirmed last week that Raimi's next directing gig will be this unofficial prequel to The Wizard of Oz about how the wizard arrived in Oz and became the deceptively powerful ruler. Robert Downey Jr., our favorite, RDJ, is supposed to be an attached star in the film as the wizard. The plot would have him enter Oz via a hot air balloon, which he uses to escape from an angry husband who has found out that Oz slept with his wife. There, Oz falls in love with Glinda the Good Witch and the two combined forces to fight the evil witches. And the two witches are described as incredibly attractive, seductive women, and one of them, Theodora, likes to wear black thigh-high boots.

SPEAKER_30: I love that it's all this broad stuff, but she wears thigh-high black boots. That's an important element. I am perplexed already.

SPEAKER_147: I love Sam Raimi, but I think we should agree as a culture he's only allowed to make thrillers and comedy horror.

SPEAKER_346: This sounds like comedy horror a little bit. I don't know.

SPEAKER_348: In the beginning, I'm like, that sounds cool, but then the hot air balloon, and I don't know.

SPEAKER_352: He's cheating on some life.

SPEAKER_350: I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, we'll see how that one turns out. That's a little train wreck-y.

SPEAKER_323: Yeah. Yeah, they describe him as a snake oil salesman posing as a magician. So that's kind of-

SPEAKER_103: Well, I mean, that makes sense, and that ties in with the original movie where he's like, it's the traveling magician guy is the same actor who then plays the wizard, but-

SPEAKER_23: Yikes. I don't know. Why not just do Wizard of Oz? Why not just make a big, sumptuous, big budget? Oh, because people would freak out.

SPEAKER_362: Don't remake the classic, and they'll never improve. It wouldn't be a musical.

SPEAKER_23: It wouldn't be a remake of the musical one. It would be just retelling of the book. I don't mind the prequel idea.

SPEAKER_07: I just think I mind this prequel idea. Just get Tim Burton's out prequels or sequels. No, we haven't seen it. He is a talented director. I'm sure he has a vision.

SPEAKER_00: Let's support him.

SPEAKER_01: Let's rally behind Sam and say it's going to be fun-tastic. All right, Tenshi, you still got more for us? Yes.

SPEAKER_323: Yes, I do. I have one more here, which is kind of a cool, nerdy fact, and it was cool to see it come out this week. Eric Stoltz's Marty McFly is finally revealed in Back to the Future reissue. For some people that don't know, but it's kind of become a mythological thing within the backstory of a much-beloved, at least, first film and perhaps trilogy, Back to the Future. But for five weeks in the early 80s, actor Eric Stoltz played Marty McFly before being famously replaced by Michael J. Fox. On the Blu-ray disc, or on the releases, Zemeckis and producer Steven Spielberg discussed Stoltz's aborted attempt at sci-fi comedy in a clip that's been floating around the internet since, I believe, the middle of this week. So if you want to YouTube that, I'm sure you'll find it. Stoltz briefly appears in these previously unseen Back to the Future footage as McFly. Stoltz, as Zemeckis explains, was a magnificent actor, but his comedy sensibilities were very different, and he and I were never able to make it work. Spielberg chimed in and said, Zemeckis and I came together. Zemeckis said that we don't think we're getting the laughs that we were hoping we could get, and Spielberg realized he was absolutely correct. So they ended up recasting and reshooting those five weeks. And for people that have seen the clip, I mean, you have to agree, there's a little bit of a dark edge to Eric Stoltz's performance, whereas Michael J. Fox kind of brought a fun-loving, sort of innocent side to it.

SPEAKER_146: I saw the clip, and I think the thing that really stands out is Stoltz is really good at playing Crispin Glover's son.

SPEAKER_23: Like, he and Crispin Glover obviously had connected about making Marty and George McFly similar, but that makes Marty really unlikable, because George McFly is unlikable. So he's sort of playing this kind of weenie, this kind of dark guy, brooding sort of side. And to make that movie work, you have to love Marty and want to see Marty succeed and win the girl and get back to the future and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_103: And I think that was probably the problem they were picking up on, as much as the fact that it's just less funny because he's less likable. And he's wearing a leather jacket.

SPEAKER_07: So they change it into a vest and a shorter guy with the same color hair. I'm shocked by this.

SPEAKER_00: I had no idea. I'm completely shocked. What I don't understand, though, to me, that's a directing thing. Just say, I mean, he's playing it a certain way.

SPEAKER_381: Well, that's the director's job. Play it funny. You know, we're going to put you in a vest. I don't know.

SPEAKER_40: I think it's that, you know, it might have taken him a while to even get what he didn't like about what Stoltz was doing.

SPEAKER_23: Because like he said, like, it's not that Eric Stoltz is not good. It's not that he's poor.

SPEAKER_40: No, he's just playing.

SPEAKER_385: I get what you're saying about not playing a likable character. But don't you think that that's a director's choice in terms of couldn't he have said try it this way?

SPEAKER_162: I can't imagine our Stoltz being like, no, I won't do it.

SPEAKER_387: Because there's a lot of actors that are kind of play the same roles.

SPEAKER_323: And the reason that they play the same roles is because they have a certain type to them. And I think he had a certain type and it just unfortunately didn't fit the role. I think you can like direct an actor like through 50% of, you know, the performance. But the rest is really up to their sort of presence and demeanor. And Stoltz, like from the scenes that I saw, just had this like really dark edge. Not that he was playing it that way. It's just that's what he exuded. It's a very abstract thing to like nail down.

SPEAKER_393: But I wonder how expensive that was to reshoot five weeks. That's a lot.

SPEAKER_40: I'm sure it was, yeah, challenging for them. And it's also just, it's hard for us with modern eyes to go back and say, oh, yeah, I can see Eric Stoltz. It's so ingrained. Marty McFly is one of those film characters. You can't not picture Michael J. Fox doing it now.

SPEAKER_395: Has Eric Stoltz ever spoken about it or about being replaced? I'm not sure. He did.

SPEAKER_323: He did. And he said that he felt the same way about, you know, where it was going. So he actually had held no grudge against Zemeckis. What a consummate professional.

SPEAKER_398: You know, like deep down he went and cried in his like cornflakes.

SPEAKER_48: That would be the biggest role he'd ever had if he was Marty McFly.

SPEAKER_07: No, some kind of wonderful, oh my God, the best last line of a movie ever. You look good wearing my future.

SPEAKER_46: Oh God, it killed me.

SPEAKER_07: I loved it.

SPEAKER_46: I loved it so much. One more news story I'm going to throw in here. James Cameron.

SPEAKER_23: Angelina Jolie rumored to be teaming up on a 3D Cleopatra. How are we going to talk about that? An adaptation of Stacey Schiff's book Cleopatra, A Life. So Brian Helgelin apparently has a screenplay that Cameron read and loved. And if he takes this one, this would push back the plans for Avatar 2, which of course Cameron is working on right now. I had read, and I think this is just a rumor, that people are saying Brad Pitt should play Mark Antony. Because that would be like Richard Burton and Liz Taylor co-starring in the 63 one. They'll never do it. Pitt and Jolie in this one. I mean, it's almost impossible to imagine what Cameron is planning in terms of the scale of a Cleopatra movie in 3D.

SPEAKER_347: Automatic must-see, though, I think. Yeah, I agree. Anybody would agree that how can you not want to see an epic ancient Egyptian?

SPEAKER_334: And had Avatar not come out, I think people would be like, oh my God, he's going to butcher it.

SPEAKER_00: Like, they would still be thinking Titanic. But I think people are so on board with Cameron again because of Avatar that now everyone's like, this will be fantastic.

SPEAKER_14: At the very least, it's going to be spectacle that must be seen on the big screen.

SPEAKER_323: Well, yeah, with those two actors and that director, and it's 3D, yeah, it should be just like the most high-budget, overblown film ever made. And I will be there to watch it.

SPEAKER_07: I was really excited to read about the fact that there's a Top Gun 2 in the works. They've already locked in the Christopher McQuarrie to write the screenplay. And they said Tom Cruise is in talks, depends on the role. But they've got offers out to Bruckheimer and Tony Scott. I'm sure it might be a disaster, but I'm kind of excited at the concept of it.

SPEAKER_412: His mouth is right and checks his body can't cash again.

SPEAKER_413: Is that a line from the movie?

SPEAKER_07: It's a line from Top Gun.

SPEAKER_412: I don't know why.

SPEAKER_07: And Justin Theroux, who I think is a very good screenwriter, says that the final script for the Zoolander 2 is getting final tweets, but it's almost done.

SPEAKER_162: I think that isn't like an event movie like Jackass. I thought Zoolander was a ton of fun.

SPEAKER_34: It is. It's funny. And it's got great cameos.

SPEAKER_103: One of the great lines in maybe 90s films is like, you should listen to your friend Billy Zane. He knows what he's talking about. Lots of good stuff like that. Oh, Billy Zane.

SPEAKER_23: One more news story I'm going to bring in, and then I think we should bring in our guest. Paul Verhoeven. No, we have to talk about Frozen. Oh, we have to talk about Frozen, too. I love one of my favorite filmmakers, Dutch genius Paul Verhoeven, linked to direct a supernatural thriller called Eternal. They're calling it Fatal Attraction with Ghosts. It follows a recovering alcoholic. He befriends and then sleeps with a woman he met. She was going to jump off the Golden Gate Bridge. He sort of intervened and saves her. Then they start a relationship, and it turns out she is not actually alive. She is a spirit, and she is coming after his soul. Perfect material for Verhoeven. Sounds like it's going to bring him back to sort of basic instinct territory, with also a mix of some of his earlier Dutch thrillers, like The Fourth Man, which is another sort of erotic thriller with a little sort of supernatural twist thrown in.

SPEAKER_103: And it's great to see him sort of still coming out, making daring, bold, interesting films, and I can't wait for that one. So Eternal, I guess that's going to be a 2011 release as well.

SPEAKER_07: Tinchy, it was so nice to see you. Likewise, guys. We shall see you back here in seven days.

SPEAKER_426: Sounds great. Bye. All right, take care, guys. Peace.

SPEAKER_07: Okay, so now we're moving on quickly to Frozen, which is a movie that I have been talking about pretty much since the show started. This is about three people stranded on a chairlift. Holy fudgesicles, what are we going to do now? It's directed by first-time writer-director Adam Green. It was at Sundance Lab this past year. Let's take a look.

SPEAKER_429: This is so nice to see you.

SPEAKER_37: This is a lot of nose, as does everyone else who watches this show. I cannot stand scary movies. I hate horror movies.

SPEAKER_07: This is a thriller, low-budget horror movie done right. There is gore. There are wolves. There is action sequences. There is frostbite. The special effects are, like, not CGI things. They're actually real things that happen to your body, which makes them even more terrifying.

SPEAKER_00: Ten minutes into the movie, they are on that freaking chairlift. And I sat there and I thought, oh, my goodness gracious, how am I going to make it for another hour and a half? What are they going to do on the chairlift? And it's amazing what the writing, where the story goes. Every time you think there's nothing else that can happen, something else happens. And it's not just the cold and that they're stranded there and they're dealing with frostbite. There's all of these other elements. You know, what would you do? Would you just jump? What happens if you break your leg? Well, then could you slide down the mountain? Like, everything is addressed. And, yes, it's a little bit of a gimmick, kind of. I was thinking a little bit like Saw, where it's a one-note type thing, except. And I liked Saw. I thought Saw was, I mean, I didn't like it, but I appreciated the story of it. And I think this is a little bit of a gimmick, but it's so much better of a story. And you really do care about these three kids. And they do develop the relationship they have between all of them. It's basically like that movie Open Water in the Snow.

SPEAKER_162: But it's better.

SPEAKER_144: Open Water played. I think it's better, too. Open Water played gimmicky.

SPEAKER_40: And it sort of felt like they were just, okay, now they're teasing out how long we can possibly spend out here. It didn't feel very eventful. This movie feels like a movie. I mean, it feels like a lot of incident happens to them out there. And almost exactly like you said, it's very good at viscerally putting you into that, what if this were me?

SPEAKER_304: Like, what if I was on this chairlift? What would I do? Would I try to jump? Would I grab on the table?

SPEAKER_00: And you don't just think about it for, like, the first five minutes. Because then they do something. And you're like, oh, right. Would I do that? Oh, but then I would do this. And then, you know, everything gets touched upon. I thought it also had an extremely satisfying ending. I kept thinking, are they all going to die? Are they all going to live? And I didn't really know what was going to happen. And, you know, Adam Green said they filmed for five hours at a time on a real chairlift. I mean, this was a low-budget movie, and it looked terrific.

SPEAKER_266: And it's the audio, the sound effects.

SPEAKER_445: Oh, I didn't even remember that, huh?

SPEAKER_40: Well, there's one scene where there's something, I won't reveal it. There's something disturbing happening off screen. And you're just tight on the other people who are listening to what's happening. And it's incredibly effective. And it's obvious, the movie plays around with Jaws imagery and sort of says parallels to Jaws. They even talk about being attacked by a shark at one point. And just like in that movie, or like a lot of Spielberg films, very good at using the suggestion of extreme stuff happening just off screen to make the action on screen more visceral and intense. I thought it was really well done.

SPEAKER_26: That's like, and when you were just saying that, it reminded me of Winter's Bone, which is a movie I reviewed a while back.

SPEAKER_00: And I said it's building and building for the whole movie until this ending. And, I mean, not that I need to see gore, but I felt like the whole thing of the not seeing it but imagining it, that didn't pay off well.

SPEAKER_26: Whereas here, I now remember what you're talking about. But let's say I also watched a decent amount of this movie like this because I was dying. But it was really, really well done.

SPEAKER_162: And Kevin Zegers, who's never really made it, but he was in Transamerica with Felicity Huffman. He was great in that.

SPEAKER_00: He was in this little indie movie with Sophia Bush called The Narrows, which I kind of liked as well. I don't know. It was interesting choice in casting. And because also it was not three people that you recognized, I believed it even more.

SPEAKER_162: Like, these were three kids that were stranded there. And it came out on DVD, I believe, this week. So put it into your queue. I've told everyone about it. I just really freaking liked it.

SPEAKER_103: If you like low-budget, horror, thrillers, or just clever, high-concept kind of movies like that, this is definitely one to check out.

SPEAKER_385: And Adam Green is now making Hatchet 2. He wrote Hatchet 1.

SPEAKER_23: No, he actually wrote and directed. Not a first-time writer-director. He had made Hatchet 1.

SPEAKER_40: He's currently got Hatchet 2, which was just at some festivals and has had a little theatrical run. Those movies are much more traditional. Slasher.

SPEAKER_310: Victor Crowley is this guy who's killing people in the bayou. They are what they are. They're sort of post-evil dead.

SPEAKER_202: A little shout-out to Adam Green, though. This is a guy I found on Facebook.

SPEAKER_07: I've become a Facebook stalker, obviously. And I wrote him a little email saying how I was such a fan of the film. And if he ever wanted to come on the show, the dude wrote me back from his honeymoon saying, I'm on my honeymoon.

SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for the support. I'm so glad you're interested. I'd love to come on the show sometime. Granted, that's been much harder to make happen. But the guy wrote me back from his honeymoon.

SPEAKER_455: We love him. Nice guy.

SPEAKER_40: And this is, we should say, Frozen is like, Frozen is a great film. So for all my issues with-

SPEAKER_456: I'm so glad this may be the only movie we ever agree on.

SPEAKER_40: For all my business with Hatchet 2, definitely see Frozen. This guy, I think, has a promising future.

SPEAKER_457: I agree. All right, time to ring in our guest. Jack Schaefer is the writer-director of the 2009 film Timer, which is a romantic comedy

SPEAKER_00: with a sci-fi twist that ponders the question, if you could know the moment you met your soulmate, how would it affect the way you live the rest of your life? It stars Emma Caulfield, Jo Beth Williams, Desmond Harrington. It was the New York Times critic's pick at Tribeca. And let's take a quick look.

SPEAKER_460: You ready?

SPEAKER_462: Uh, yeah, um, about this.

SPEAKER_464: Ryan, you like me, right?

SPEAKER_462: Yes, definitely.

SPEAKER_464: But what's the point in continuing out of guarantee?

SPEAKER_469: So how long have the two of you been dating? About a month.

SPEAKER_471: After implantation, if the two of you are meant to be, then both of your timers at the very same time go...

SPEAKER_478: I love that you're a girl and you're accommodating. You don't want to know what that conversation is about. Welcome to Jack.

SPEAKER_07: Thank you for coming. Absolutely. I, we sort of became acquainted through a mutual friend, but I was so taken with this movie.

SPEAKER_00: I love female directors, I have to say, I bow down to you. But what I loved about this film was it, not that guys don't think about this, but this is just a question that you know every girl sits and thinks about. When am I going to meet my soulmate and does he exist? And it really made me think, if you could know the moment, would that take the fun out of falling in love? And would you just disregard everyone else that you meet because you know that they're not the one?

SPEAKER_385: Where did you come up with this idea and the idea to bring the sci-fi element into it? Yes. Thank you. All of that.

SPEAKER_484: All of it.

SPEAKER_485: All of that was good.

SPEAKER_487: Yes. To that. First, the sci-fi aspect, I'm kind of a sci-fi nerd.

SPEAKER_489: Even though my movie is a romantic comedy, that's sort of like my first hook into movies was, well, originally it was like fantasy, like Never Ending Story and Dark Crystal and that kind of thing. And then in my teens, it was much more like James Cameron and that kind of thing. So I'm very sci-fi minded, which I think surprises people because it feels like a straight romantic comedy. But that's sort of more of my jam, the sci-fi. I came up with the concept because my brother was getting married and my mom had one of those countdown to the big day clocks. Have you ever seen those? You program in the date of the wedding and it's like, you have like 20 days left. Get your creator and that kind of thing. Way to make your mom stress out. Good Lord. No, I didn't get it. It was actually the mother of the bride who got it for everybody. But yeah, I would like go over to my mom's house and there would be this like device that would be like, hey, your ovaries are shriveling up while your brother's met a soulmate. Awesome. And I was like, ah, I don't have a date to the wedding and everything's terrible. And I thought if I had one of those devices that could tell me when I was going to meet my soulmate, like I didn't even need him there for the wedding. I was like, if I just knew he was out there, like if I just could have a countdown, then I could like get my ducks in a row and live my life and whatever and then be ready

SPEAKER_487: for the dude to show up. And then of course, I started breaking the story and realized that it would be a horrible, horrible thing. I love it.

SPEAKER_492: And that's what you can tell everyone with the wedding. I'm not supposed to have him here yet. I meet him in six months. Leave me the hell alone. Right, right, right. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. This is fascinating.

SPEAKER_00: Were you nervous or challenged by the fact that you were blending two genres and often that people struggle with the tone and you're a first time, you know, this is your first feature. Were you nervous? Like, ah, maybe I should just make something that's a little more palatable.

SPEAKER_489: No. I mean, I wasn't nervous about it. It proved to be something that was difficult when we were selling the movie. And it is, yes, as you say, a challenging aspect. But I really wanted my first feature to be something unusual and to be original. And I'm really inspired by genre mashups. Charlie Kaufman is one of my heroes. And I just feel like we're in such a sort of self-reflexive pop culture age that audiences can handle it and they actually want it. And I think it's really exciting when you break rules with intention and with intelligence.

SPEAKER_500: And that's what I was trying to do is I really wanted to blend a bunch of things.

SPEAKER_457: I'm so glad you said Charlie Kaufman because when I was watching it, I'm like, I don't think, would she be insulted if I said it reminds me of being John Malkovich? No. And a little bit of Cold Souls.

SPEAKER_162: And then I thought, but is that just because there's the sci-fi element? But there is, you have that vibe.

SPEAKER_487: Yeah, well, I mean, that's why I love filmmaking is I feel like it's an opportunity to, you

SPEAKER_489: know, think what if and to really let your imagination run away with you. But of course, at the core, you always need, you know, an accessible human story. And so that's what I wanted to do was have an interesting hook that was kind of provocative but really tell like a little indie love story and, you know, follow two people as they sort of screw up.

SPEAKER_497: Your film was in over a dozen film festivals. What was the festival experience like for you? Did you sell the movie there? We didn't actually.

SPEAKER_487: We ended up doing sort of a self-release. It's called a hybrid release that I can tell you about.

SPEAKER_489: But we premiered at Tribeca, which was fantastic. I love the Tribeca Film Festival and they took great care of us and they really launched the film well. And then we had a domestic run and then we did festivals internationally and we got on the sci-fi fantasy festival circuit and played almost exclusively at international festivals that were sci-fi and fantasy. And so that was a total trip. Like I was at Cold Souls with a lot of different, at a lot of different festivals. But mostly it was like horror and zombies. And then people get like a love story. And then they were like, come see the blonde lady with the clock on her wrist. But it ended up being great sort of counter-programming and we got a lot of attention because of it and it was a fantastic experience, yeah.

SPEAKER_210: Can I ask what the budget was like for this movie?

SPEAKER_485: Was it, I mean, how difficult was it to get it made? I mean, we raised our financing in 2006 before everything kind of went into the toilet.

SPEAKER_489: So I would never say that it was easy, but it was certainly easier then. And it's really, I mean, filmmaking always is a real give and take and it's really, you know, whatever win you have, you're going to sacrifice later. So we secured our financing and we were so blessed. Our investors were wonderful people. But then on the back end, we premiered right at the absolute bottom of selling. And so, you know, the year prior, people were still giving filmmakers money for their movies. And when we premiered, there were no minimum guarantees. There was no money. It was all back end stuff. So, yes, our financing went well compared to a lot of other stories you might hear.

SPEAKER_505: But selling was hard.

SPEAKER_00: Was casting Emma, tell me about that process. Because people who may not know, she was Susan on 90210. She was Brandon's girlfriend in college. And she's also now on Life Unexpected on the CW. Of course, I watched that. So I was surprised by her because I thought of her as more of a TV person. And I thought she was very good in it. But I wondered why you cast her.

SPEAKER_497: Like, was she your first choice?

SPEAKER_489: Why her? Well, we had a casting director. You know, we had very little money, but we knew we wanted to spend on certain things. We shot on film, which is something that we, you know, we set aside money for. And we set aside money for a casting director because we were sort of untested. My producers were both first-time feature producers. And so we needed someone to help us get access to people. And Emma came in. Prior to Emma coming in, you know, people would read the scenes. And it didn't quite work. And I was like, ah, maybe this is a crappy script. Like, I don't know what's happening. And then she came in and she made it better than it was even in my head. Like, she just has fabulous timing. She has fabulous timing. And she's so sort of, like, quirky and, like, uptight but, like, really vulnerable. And she's got these big, big eyes. And I just find her absolutely charming. And she came in and just sort of made it sing. Because it's, the romantic comedy lead is a very tough character because often she can come across, like, in any movie, like, the lead of a romantic comedy can come across, like, shrill or difficult or whatever.

SPEAKER_510: I'm thinking, what would a Katherine Heigl have done with this role? Like, that whole time I was watching it.

SPEAKER_489: I don't know what you mean. I wanted someone who could, who was in that sort of Meg Ryan box but had depth and had range and was more compelling than that and had a little more flavor. And Emma, she looks so cute, but she's actually a really weird person. And she's very cool and very smart. And talk about a sci-fi nerd. Oh, my gosh. The girl is just Looney Tunes. And all of that is sort of a part of her fiber. And I feel like, you know, you get this very sort of cookie-cutter thing in the movie, but there's more there. You know, and you had to believe that with this character. You had to believe that she wasn't just, you know, because she's so timer-focused in the beginning.

SPEAKER_512: And you have to watch that arc of her sort of doing, ridding herself of those sort of conceptions that are getting in the way of a good life.

SPEAKER_513: I thought the film was so unique and such a cool story and so well done. I figured you, you know, obviously didn't have a ton of money to make it.

SPEAKER_514: What did it do for you career-wise? And did your life drastically change once people saw you at the festival and they were like, I want you to come direct my movie?

SPEAKER_515: Or not so much? No, not so much I want you to come direct my movie. So you're not doing one of those two Hobbit movies? Strangely, no. I am not.

SPEAKER_516: I heard you're directing the new Twilight movies.

SPEAKER_489: Come on. I should be. No. I mean, it has changed my life. You know, I have representation now and I've met a lot of things and I have a couple other projects. Nothing that's in production yet. But I have things going now, you know, more at the studio level. So that's exciting. I love independent films and I hope to make more. But there is something really alluring about doing studio fairs because you don't have to do it all yourself.

SPEAKER_162: Do you need to write your script or do you feel that bond where I would really prefer to direct something I wrote or not important?

SPEAKER_487: You know, I never really fancied myself a writer. I wrote this so that I could direct.

SPEAKER_489: And then sort of coming out the other end, I realized I am very much a writer. No, I don't feel that precious that it has to be my own. But so far, the things I've been up for, what I've read, nothing's really – I haven't really hooked into anything. So I've continued to write my own. But I, like, in terms of the length of my career, I'm absolutely open to directing other people's work as long as I can identify and find some kind of a way.

SPEAKER_162: When you were on the festival circuit, were you one of the few female directors?

SPEAKER_00: Because I just – I mean, I admire – I think it's hard being a woman and a female director in this business. And did you – did that single you out in a cool way?

SPEAKER_162: Like, oh, she's this new hot sort of thing? Or was it – do you find it's sort of an uphill battle at all being a female director?

SPEAKER_489: I get – kind of the big difference is I get these questions. So I, like, sit on panels with a bunch of dudes and, like – and then, like, someone's, like, you know, female director. Because they're not going to ask the dudes about being a female director. So that's kind of the main difference is that's always, like, a thing. Yes, especially on the sci-fi fantasy circuit, I was almost always, except for the lovely woman who directed Cold Souls. I was exclusively the sole female director.

SPEAKER_487: I mean, I love guys and I love filmmakers. And so, like, there's nothing, like, weird about that. You're okay, Alon. Don't worry. But I – you know, yeah. I mean, people think it's – people sort of embrace it and think it's great.

SPEAKER_489: I really – I feel very strongly that I just want my work to stand for itself. I mean, this film certainly feels like a film directed by a woman. And it addresses, you know, the issues of the city-dwelling, you know, 30-something woman.

SPEAKER_487: Are you from New York? I'm not. I lived in New York. But I'm not – I'm not from there originally. But, yeah, it's sort of – yeah.

SPEAKER_489: But I don't – that's not, you know, the only thing I do. And, you know, Catherine Beagle obviously is one of my heroes and she does stuff that you would, you know, never think, hey, a chick directed that.

SPEAKER_487: So I find – just to sort of generally answer your question, I find these questions hard because I actually don't want to be –

SPEAKER_489: Right. No, you're smart. You know, I want to support female filmmakers, but I don't want to be like, hey, I'm a girl and look at me. I'm just like, look at my movie and then hopefully enjoy it.

SPEAKER_00: Any lesson or thing that, you know, looking back and obviously in hindsight you have a little time to think about the film. Any advice to other filmmakers or things – something you learned on the film that you'll know for the next one that you could share with us?

SPEAKER_485: Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_487: On the writing side of it, I would say is – I always tell young writers or any writers who ask me anything to write your voice.

SPEAKER_489: I think it took me a while to really surrender to writing how I speak and how I am. And luckily that ended up being successful and people responded to it and it really worked out. And I think, you know, trying to write what other people want you to write or what you think is good or trying to mimic something that really – that only can get you so far. So that's always what I say is write how you talk. You know, there is a structure to screenwriting, but, you know, a lot of people say my action lines – you know, a criticism I get is my action lines are often like too funny, like they should be in dialogue. But I'm trying to convey a tone, and so I don't agree with that. I think it's perfectly acceptable for the action lines to be funny because then when you're reading it, you have a sense of the rhythm of the script. With shooting, I would say my biggest piece of advice is work with people that you trust and can communicate with. I think that, you know, if you go for people because their resume is right, that can also sort of get you into trouble, that the best collaborations are with people that you have a rapport with. And together, even if, you know, you're both inexperienced, together you can make something fantastic.

SPEAKER_512: Whereas if you're working with someone who's hugely experienced but you can't communicate with them, you're sort of screwed.

SPEAKER_252: I was so taken with – because I thought, how is she going to do this – the science element of it is that there's a timer that you have on your body and that goes off.

SPEAKER_00: Did you struggle with what is that going to look like without CGI, where do I put this on the body, were there other ideas in the mix?

SPEAKER_485: I mean, I always wanted to be on the wrist.

SPEAKER_489: I find – I think the wrist is kind of like, you know, it's the pulse and there's something like sexy about it without it being like, you know, any erogenous zone. Like, I just think the wrist is really cool. There's actually a shot in Shop Girl, which is a film that I really like, that's this beautiful shot of Claire Dane's wrist. And it, like, has always sort of stuck with me. And so that was always there. But, yeah, we – you know, in the film you might have noticed there are several generations of timers. So we did a lot of work to brand this product and really – you know, because it's set present day – to really make it seem recognizable and have visual illusions that will help you sort of digest it. So it's not some freaky sci-fi thing that you can't actually connect to. So, yeah, we did a lot of sort of prototyping and figuring out. And we thought, you know, it would make sense that it would start looking like as a Casio watch and then over the years end up looking more like an iPod.

SPEAKER_347: Yeah, it has a very Apple design to it when you see it. It's got that Steve Jobs, like, white. Right, right, right, right.

SPEAKER_26: And where can I order mine? Is it on Amazon.com? Because I would like my timer right now.

SPEAKER_545: Oh, look at that.

SPEAKER_07: Well, this may be the best gift I've gotten so far on this show. So my soulmate is showing up in 23 hours, 40 minutes, and 9 seconds. 23 hours.

SPEAKER_548: At the top, there's the days.

SPEAKER_07: Oh, 195 days?

SPEAKER_548: Yeah, I was about to say 23 hours.

SPEAKER_495: In less than a year, I'm going to be engaged and married. This is very exciting news. Well, and I'm practically off the market. You better get in now.

SPEAKER_549: Tinchy's married. I know.

SPEAKER_37: He's got a child. I'm up for breaking a marriage. No, I'm just kidding. Well, that's great. I mean, I know we have one more segment I'd love you to sit tight for if you're willing. Sure.

SPEAKER_554: Lon, what are you sharing with us this week?

SPEAKER_48: For this week, I figured I'd do a segment called Better or Worse. I did it once before. It involved decapitation last time, but it doesn't this time, so you don't have to cover your face.

SPEAKER_556: He likes to really screw with me. Oh, it's just fine. I hate horror.

SPEAKER_23: So we're going to do, basically, I pick a concept or a thing that has played out in many movies, and then I pick the best example of this thing and the worst example of this thing. So the first one we'll do, people throwing themselves out of windows.

SPEAKER_558: You'd be surprised how many movies this comes up in.

SPEAKER_23: I actually had to go through a list of about 12 to pick. So here is my choice for the worst example of someone throwing themselves out of a window, Ed Harris as a dying poet in The Hours. Let's take a look.

SPEAKER_559: Horrible. Oh, my God.

SPEAKER_23: It's horrible.

SPEAKER_562: I've never had that. No? It's really bad. No, maybe not. There we go. You hate to see that.

SPEAKER_569: It's sad.

SPEAKER_48: But it's so, like, nonchalant. That's what's so shocking about it. It's just like, ah, okay, I'm done.

SPEAKER_569: 195 days I meet my soulmate. Sorry, I'm, like, completely distracted after the rest of the show.

SPEAKER_46: Hopefully he doesn't fall out of a window. And so now my example here is the best example, the most fun, coolest example of someone throwing themselves out of a window.

SPEAKER_574: Wait, let us guess. Give us a clue. I bet you Jack will get it. Well, I've got to give us something. The best example?

SPEAKER_23: It is from the first movie in what has since become a beloved franchise.

SPEAKER_576: Is it horror?

SPEAKER_23: It's not horror.

SPEAKER_576: Is it Spider-Man franchise? No. Twilight franchise? Okay, now you're just guessing.

SPEAKER_103: It is from The Bourne Identity, the first Bourne film.

SPEAKER_579: Oh, oh, that is the best ever. Matt Damon comes in. This other spy is there, totally afraid of Matt Damon. Why would he do that? Here's his reaction. Oh, my God.

SPEAKER_588: Why would he do that?

SPEAKER_584: He might not have killed him, but he's like, I'm not even going to take my chances. That is the best.

SPEAKER_588: That's the best example. It's so good. And it's because there's a railing there. That's why.

SPEAKER_589: It's Fanka Potente's reaction is the best. Why would he do that? We weren't going to kill you.

SPEAKER_46: Just surrender. It's so good. Don't hurt me, Matt Damon. I agree. So, there you go.

SPEAKER_23: So, the next one we're going to do, the best and worst lines said by Samuel L. Jackson that have been edited for television. Where do you come up with this stuff? First, we'll look at the worst example of editing a line of Samuel L. Jackson for television.

SPEAKER_40: It is from one of my favorite movies, maybe of all time, definitely of the 90s, Pulp Fiction.

SPEAKER_596: What does Marcellus Wallace look like? What?

SPEAKER_601: What country are you from? What? What? What ain't no country I ever heard of.

SPEAKER_604: They speak English and what? What? English, little sucker. Do you speak it? Yes. Then you know what I'm saying. Yes. Describe what Marcellus Wallace looks like. What? Say what again. Say what again.

SPEAKER_606: I dare you. I double dare you, my friend. Say what one more damn time. Just like no effort made at all.

SPEAKER_610: So he doesn't say my friend. No, it's mother effort. It's both of those.

SPEAKER_611: I was like, this all sounds fine to me.

SPEAKER_40: Seriously. They don't even cut away or dub. It's obvious they had Samuel L. Jackson say this into a tape recorder and then they put it in. Unlike the best example of this, the masterful job done on Snakes on a Plane. And this is the movie's signature line that they had to dub as well. So let's take a look at that. Just prime example of editing Samuel L. Jackson for television.

SPEAKER_615: We've got to clear the snakes out of the cockpit.

SPEAKER_617: Yeah, yeah. Clear the snakes out of the cockpit. Yeah. Enough is enough.

SPEAKER_620: I have had it with these monkey fighting snakes on this Monday to Friday plane. Everybody strap in.

SPEAKER_621: We're about to open some freaking windows.

SPEAKER_624: You can cut back to this.

SPEAKER_623: What is it? Monkey freaking?

SPEAKER_40: Monkey fighting snakes on this Monday to Friday plane. Which of course would be like you'd say every day, this Monday to Friday plane. Also, he's just so on another level during this whole movie. Yeah, yeah. Get all the snakes in the cockpit. Yeah. It's just no time for it.

SPEAKER_626: I feel like he could have a Nicolas Cage segment as well. He could have his own.

SPEAKER_40: We could definitely do the Jackson match. Maybe after we run out of Nicolas Cage movies. We also do a segment where we just look at great moments and insanity from Nicolas Cage.

SPEAKER_628: They rate it. How crazy it is.

SPEAKER_23: Final, better, or worse. This is people being killed by the propeller on a plane. Oh.

SPEAKER_296: You know? Which one? Go. Go for it. Go.

SPEAKER_423: The best example of all time is clearly Raiders. We'll take a look at that. First, I want to take a look at the worst example.

SPEAKER_296: Wait.

SPEAKER_632: Jack might get that too.

SPEAKER_296: Wait. Give me a hint. This film stars...

SPEAKER_635: I'll just go and give you the star. This film stars Steven Seagal. Oh, you know what? That's really a blind spot in my film.

SPEAKER_638: It's Under Siege, is it? No, no. Under Siege 2? Under Siege, they're on a boat. I know. But it's like the propeller of the... That's true. Jack, if you knew this, I have my respect level. Sorry.

SPEAKER_643: I'm glad. I'm glad.

SPEAKER_23: I ashamed myself. It is on deadly ground. Oh, yeah. And you're going...

SPEAKER_40: Everybody will recognize the actor being thrown into the propeller. He's later been on Scrubs. What's... John McGinley. Shut up. Yeah, no. So let's take a look. Let's roll that clip.

SPEAKER_653: But Chinese, you're going to need me. I got files.

SPEAKER_655: I got tapes. I got books. You better have them in your pocket right now. I got them. Yeah? I got them.

SPEAKER_658: You always get... Even I'm disappointed by that, and I hate gore. There's a...

SPEAKER_661: There's some paint. It's a great, like, standard in the movie. Were those his glasses that hit the thing?

SPEAKER_662: Yes, that was... You're right. You see, like, the rim of his glasses.

SPEAKER_40: That's become, like, the shorthand in movies of Guy getting, like, decapitated by a propeller is you get that little, like, streak of blood against the plane, and that actually came

SPEAKER_588: from the best example. I think Spielberg was the first to do that. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_310: In Raiders. One more note about Undeadly Ground, which is a hilariously awful movie. He... It's...

SPEAKER_23: The whole point is, like, he's saving the environment, so in the end, he blows up an oil ring. He just starts burning millions of gallons of oil, and that's how he, like, saves the planet

SPEAKER_40: from the evil oil industry, which now, in retrospect, like, post all of the oil spill stuff, it just strikes moderate audiences, like, oh, to see that, but at the time, I guess it's deemed as Steve as they got, like, a great message. So let's take a look.

SPEAKER_406: If something is bad, you blow it up. It doesn't matter if it's oil. Just blow it up. There you go.

SPEAKER_40: Even if it's oil in, like, our precious Alaskan, you know, glacier parks that are just, like, burning for days.

SPEAKER_103: But so let's take a look at the best example of a guy being thrown into a propeller, falling into a propeller in this case, Raiders of the Lost Ark, of course.

SPEAKER_40: And again, you see the swastika that gets the blood spattered on it, which I think was the first time that was done. So always impressive when you could invent a shot that other filmmakers then en masse rip off, which Spielberg has done dozens of times. I'm sure he was honored that Seagal forwards it off. Millions of times people have ripped that off. All sorts of shots from Spielberg movies. Like, in Jurassic Park, when the raptors jump on somebody and you see the bushes moving and

SPEAKER_103: you hear it, that's been in a million movies since then. So that's this week's Better or Worse.

SPEAKER_319: Nice. Well, that is our show. Well, thank you for tuning in to This Week in Movies.

SPEAKER_00: You can follow me on Twitter, if you so choose, at Miss Frothy. You can follow Lon at Lon's. Jack, do you have your own personal, or is it just for the movie?

SPEAKER_678: It's just for the movie, but it's better to, like, like us on Facebook.

SPEAKER_679: We're more Facebook competent than we are on Twitter.

SPEAKER_503: So time to put a timer on Facebook? Yes, yes. We have a group and a, and, um, what's the opposite? A fan page? Yes, fan page. Do this. Fan us on Facebook. There you go.

SPEAKER_39: And I encourage you to, to see Timer. It's a very unique, very cool movie, and it's freaking free, so you have no excuse not to watch it.

SPEAKER_98: And if you want to send in a review...

SPEAKER_23: Yes. ...lon at thisweekend.com, or just tweet me, uh, at Lon's, and I'll tell you how to get it to us. And, uh, yeah.

SPEAKER_40: So let's do that for next week.

SPEAKER_492: And next week, our guest is Jeff Siebenek. Siebenek.

SPEAKER_00: He edited the movie, I pronounce this wrong, every single time, The Foot Fist Way, and he just wrapped another season of HBO's East Bound and Down. Fantastic show. And he's the first editor that we're going to have on the show, so we hope you will join us for that. I will be back next week because, according to Jack, I have 195 days left before I have to run off with my lover. And that is our show. Have a great week, guys, and we hope to see you again next Sunday night. Thank you.