Some of my complaints:
1. Hubspot released Sequences 10 years ago, and somehow they still don't have API suppport.
2. Meanwhile if I need to fetch associations between objects I have to use their V4 associations API but if I want to fetch contact lists I need to use their V1 API, and to fetch contacts themselves I sometimes have to use a V1 API and sometimes a V3 API. Who is versioning all of this
3. It's 2024 and somehow none of their APIs support sorting, ordering or filtering and to do so you need to use their /search endpoint. The problem is there's a 4 requests per second rate limit on the endpoint. That leads to my next complaint
4. A 4 rps limit is fine, if HubSpot allowed you to have an individual user go through oauth, but for some reason they suggest and push you to authenticate only 1 super admin, which means if you have 10+ users the search endpoint is pretty much useless and needs to be throttled significantly
There's so many other issues with fields that should be deprecated but aren't, fields getting deprecated and the only answers being some community message 5 years ago, lack of API support for workflows and other new features, and there's even issues where I noticed we'd get small bursts of 401's for no reason and Hubspot's response was that when they rotate the credentials used to verify tokens it can cause temporary downtime daily."},"title":{"fullyHighlighted":false,"matchLevel":"full","matchedWords":["hubspot"],"value":"Ask HN: Can someone at HubSpot explain some of their API design choices?"}},"_tags":["story","author_thexumaker","story_39908514","ask_hn"],"author":"thexumaker","children":[39908534,39909794,39910944,39911049,39911465,39911720,39918881,39919469,39920168,39946704,39950253],"created_at":"2024-04-02T17:34:09Z","created_at_i":1712079249,"num_comments":26,"objectID":"39908514","points":51,"story_id":39908514,"story_text":"Has anyone else built integrations for hubspot and just been completely fed up with their terrible developer experience compared to other sales tools? Outreach, Salesloft, Apollo, and Salesforce have just blown them out of water in that aspect.
Some of my complaints:
1. Hubspot released Sequences 10 years ago, and somehow they still don't have API suppport.
2. Meanwhile if I need to fetch associations between objects I have to use their V4 associations API but if I want to fetch contact lists I need to use their V1 API, and to fetch contacts themselves I sometimes have to use a V1 API and sometimes a V3 API. Who is versioning all of this
3. It's 2024 and somehow none of their APIs support sorting, ordering or filtering and to do so you need to use their /search endpoint. The problem is there's a 4 requests per second rate limit on the endpoint. That leads to my next complaint
4. A 4 rps limit is fine, if HubSpot allowed you to have an individual user go through oauth, but for some reason they suggest and push you to authenticate only 1 super admin, which means if you have 10+ users the search endpoint is pretty much useless and needs to be throttled significantly
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